My Beardie seems very ill

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My Beardie seems very ill

Postby Eboyd203 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:56 pm

Hi about 5 days ago I realized my beardie Pharaoh eyes were sealed shut. She is 5 years old. I put a warm compress and she still wouldnt open. From a forum I saw to get preservative free eye drops by sydane I began using it and it loosened up and I was able to with a moist q-tip get the mucus out. The next day it was sealed shut again and she began doing this weird panting thing and opening her mouth wide multiple times. I took her to the vet and an emergency er doc seem her, they cleaned both eyes gave prescribed an eye drop and gave an antibiotic. She said it looked like an eye infection and unclear of what else but gave a antibiotic just in case it was an upper respiratory infection. I gave the drops and after a few hrs it was sealed again . She also stopped eating , someone recommended giving her fluckers repa appetite boost so I have for the past 3 days but she still isnt eating. I’m really worried and don’t know what to do, please help
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Re: My Beardie seems very ill

Postby loljelloclowdz » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:00 pm

Wait, what antibiotic did they give? If there’s no proof of an upper respiratory infection then it might not be necessary to have them on that antibiotic. I’d still use the Fluker’s appetite stimulant as it’s good to keep them eating properly, but I’d consider seeing another vet if they are giving out antibiotics without proof of an infection.
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Re: My Beardie seems very ill

Postby Eboyd203 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:26 pm

loljelloclowdz wrote:Wait, what antibiotic did they give? If there’s no proof of an upper respiratory infection then it might not be necessary to have them on that antibiotic. I’d still use the fuckers appetite stimulant as it’s good to keep them eating properly, but I’d consider seeing another vet if they are giving out antibiotics without proof of an infection.

They prescribed Baytril Syrup she said because it will help with the eye infection and she may have something systemic going on and it will help with that
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Re: My Beardie seems very ill

Postby AHBD » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:42 pm

Poor thing, can you post pics of her face, also of her in the tank showing the entire set up including the lights ? Here's how to post pics :

https://www.beardeddragon.org/useruploads/ Then use the XIMG to upload them

BTW, raw unpasteurized honey mixed with about 4 parts lukewarm water can help an eye infection quickly. I used it on my own dragon's infected eye + cured it in a few days.
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Re: My Beardie seems very ill

Postby Eboyd203 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:34 pm

AHBD wrote:Poor thing, can you post pics of her face, also of her in the tank showing the entire set up including the lights ? Here's how to post pics :

https://www.beardeddragon.org/useruploads/ Then use the XIMG to upload them

BTW, raw unpasteurized honey mixed with about 4 parts lukewarm water can help an eye infection quickly. I used it on my own dragon's infected eye + cured it in a few days.

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Re: My Beardie seems very ill

Postby Eboyd203 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:37 pm

Eboyd203 wrote:
AHBD wrote:Poor thing, can you post pics of her face, also of her in the tank showing the entire set up including the lights ? Here's how to post pics :

https://www.beardeddragon.org/useruploads/ Then use the XIMG to upload them

BTW, raw unpasteurized honey mixed with about 4 parts lukewarm water can help an eye infection quickly. I used it on my own dragon's infected eye + cured it in a few days.

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Re: My Beardie seems very ill

Postby Eboyd203 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:38 pm

Eboyd203 wrote:
Eboyd203 wrote:
AHBD wrote:Poor thing, can you post pics of her face, also of her in the tank showing the entire set up including the lights ? Here's how to post pics :

https://www.beardeddragon.org/useruploads/ Then use the XIMG to upload them

BTW, raw unpasteurized honey mixed with about 4 parts lukewarm water can help an eye infection quickly. I used it on my own dragon's infected eye + cured it in a few days.

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In the pictures are currently what his eyes looks like. They are open but overnight or when left for a few hrs are when the crust up again. Also how do you measure the amount of honey?
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Re: My Beardie seems very ill

Postby AHBD » Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:03 pm

Yeah, poor girl looks very ill. What type of uvb bulb do you have ? If that's a Zilla check to see if the plastic shield is covering the uvb, if it is take it off. Can you get her another basking log, that branch is a bit skimpy ,especially for a dragon that's not feeling well and not going to be comfortable on that. Get a thicker + flatter surface, avoid hammock though since she has long nails that will get snagged. As for the honey, just a big drop mixed with a few drops of water that equals about 4 X as much. Use a syringe or just a Q-tip do dab it in her eyes. Be sure there are no insects in the enclosure. Offer her some water mixed with the Repta boost and drip it very slowly on her snout to [ hopefully ] get her to drink. She looks pretty dehydrated.
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Postby loljelloclowdz » Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:35 pm

OMG Fluker’s autocorrected to the f word on my new iPad, I’m so sorry! I need to edit that immediately lol.
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Re: My Beardie seems very ill

Postby Eboyd203 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:51 pm

AHBD wrote:Yeah, poor girl looks very ill. What type of uvb bulb do you have ? If that's a Zilla check to see if the plastic shield is covering the uvb, if it is take it off. Can you get her another basking log, that branch is a bit skimpy ,especially for a dragon that's not feeling well and not going to be comfortable on that. Get a thicker + flatter surface, avoid hammock though since she has long nails that will get snagged. As for the honey, just a big drop mixed with a few drops of water that equals about 4 X as much. Use a syringe or just a Q-tip do dab it in her eyes. Be sure there are no insects in the enclosure. Offer her some water mixed with the Repta boost and drip it very slowly on her snout to [ hopefully ] get her to drink. She looks pretty dehydrated.


I just purchased today the Zoo Med Reptisun T5 HO Hood, 24 Inch and a Zoo Med ReptiSun 10.0 T5-HO UVB Fluorescent Bulb, 22 Inch. Because I was told the zilla t8 wasn’t sufficient
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Re: My Beardie seems very ill

Postby Drache613 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:07 am

Hello,

Which eye drops are you using right now, or are you just giving the baytril for an infection?
The Reptisun 10 T5 tube is a great bulb, so that's great you did get that ordered now. The
Zilla isn't very good & it wont give near enough UVB for your dragon.
As suggested, try using the honey with the warm water. It is highly effective since it's a
antimicrobial agent.
What foods are you trying to give to her? You can try using the repta boost, a lot of the
dragons do like it. You can also get some chicken or turkey baby food, mixed with either
squash or sweet potato baby food to give to her using a plastic dropper or syringe. Just
drop some food onto her snout to see if she will lick any of the food off.
Be sure to keep her a little warmer overnight, around 75-80 to help boost her system.

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Re: My Beardie seems very ill

Postby Eboyd203 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:09 am

Drache613 wrote:Hello,

Which eye drops are you using right now, or are you just giving the baytril for an infection?
The Reptisun 10 T5 tube is a great bulb, so that's great you did get that ordered now. The
Zilla isn't very good & it wont give near enough UVB for your dragon.
As suggested, try using the honey with the warm water. It is highly effective since it's a
antimicrobial agent.
What foods are you trying to give to her? You can try using the repta boost, a lot of the
dragons do like it. You can also get some chicken or turkey baby food, mixed with either
squash or sweet potato baby food to give to her using a plastic dropper or syringe. Just
drop some food onto her snout to see if she will lick any of the food off.
Be sure to keep her a little warmer overnight, around 75-80 to help boost her system.

Tracie


The drops I was given are called tobramycin ophthalmic soution. I have started her on the repa boost and she have a very foul diarrhea the next day, is that normal? I stopped using it and ordered and gave her lastnight the critical care carnivore care , is that safe to use? . So far she hasn’t used the bathroom from it. Also this morning her eyes we sealed again so I cleaned with saline and put the drops prescribed again. I’m going to try the honey mix now that I got them open again, how quick should I see results after using that?
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Re: My Beardie seems very ill

Postby KarrieRee » Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:42 am

The carnivore care is very good stuff --- you might want to get some herbivore as well and mix them -I would make it kinda soupy so shes getting water as well and its thick anyway - how are you feeding? the proper UVB placed is going to help w/ everything - once you get it placed and proper distance you should see a difference very quickly --
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Re: My Beardie seems very ill

Postby Eboyd203 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:26 pm

KarrieRee wrote:The carnivore care is very good stuff --- you might want to get some herbivore as well and mix them -I would make it kinda soupy so shes getting water as well and its thick anyway - how are you feeding? the proper UVB placed is going to help w/ everything - once you get it placed and proper distance you should see a difference very quickly --
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Hi when I was giving her the repa boost the following day her stool was like diarrhea and smelled very fowl. I discontinued using it and used the carnivore care , she hasnt had a bowel movement yet. What should I expect when she does? Also was the bowel movement from the repa normal?
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Re: My Beardie seems very ill

Postby KarrieRee » Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:46 pm

Is this the first time for the real bad smell? And not sure about the runny stool from the repta boost haven't heard of that before-- it's possible she might have parasites- runny stools and bad smell is usually a good sign w/ poor uvb as well--
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