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Tlo16

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Beardie name(s)
Ralph
Hi!
I am new here and I inherited a Beardie and just want to provide good care for him.

Bearded dragon approximately 3 years old.

My son had him in a tank with sand and all was fine until about 6-8 months ago when we moved him to a much larger aquarium with a tile floor. Just before the ‘move’ he stopped eating greens. He will eat fruit occasionally. He will not drink his water and only poops in a warm bath.

I am wondering if I should move him back to his smaller tank with sand ? He only wants to eat crickets and worms and as I mentioned occasional fruit He also does not shed anymore. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you
 

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KarrieRee

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Beardie name(s)
Hiccup he is 6 and Blaze is 4
Hi!
I am new here and I inherited a Beardie and just want to provide good care for him.

Bearded dragon approximately 3 years old.

My son had him in a tank with sand and all was fine until about 6-8 months ago when we moved him to a much larger aquarium with a tile floor. Just before the ‘move’ he stopped eating greens. He will eat fruit occasionally. He will not drink his water and only poops in a warm bath.

I am wondering if I should move him back to his smaller tank with sand ? He only wants to eat crickets and worms and as I mentioned occasional fruit He also does not shed anymore. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you
Lets go over the lighting--- surface basking temps are what? How are you taking them? NO stick ons you need 2 digital probe thermometers ---your UVB is it a coil or a long tube fixture ? Coils are inadequate and will cause lack or no eating - and all kinds of health issues--- how big is the tank hes in? Dragons will stop growing if in a small tank -- also they usually quit around the age of 2 - so if he was in the small tank hes probably stunted -- also inadequate lighting as well - He needs a diet of fresh salads every day Nutrition Content ignore the kale info it is outdated and is a great staple feeder-- dragons do not drink for a bowl typically- does he drink from the bath? Fresh salads give the moisture they need- the greens can be rinsed before serving- is he dehydrated? His poops will tell you - poops should be dark firm and moist -- urate white firm and moist any chalking or dried out looking hes dehydrated another reason for lack of not eating-
 

Tlo16

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Original Poster
Beardie name(s)
Ralph
Lets go over the lighting--- surface basking temps are what? How are you taking them? NO stick ons you need 2 digital probe thermometers ---your UVB is it a coil or a long tube fixture ? Coils are inadequate and will cause lack or no eating - and all kinds of health issues--- how big is the tank hes in? Dragons will stop growing if in a small tank -- also they usually quit around the age of 2 - so if he was in the small tank hes probably stunted -- also inadequate lighting as well - He needs a diet of fresh salads every day Nutrition Content ignore the kale info it is outdated and is a great staple feeder-- dragons do not drink for a bowl typically- does he drink from the bath? Fresh salads give the moisture they need- the greens can be rinsed before serving- is he dehydrated? His poops will tell you - poops should be dark firm and moist -- urate white firm and moist any chalking or dried out looking hes dehydrated another reason for lack of not eating-
Thank you. He’s in a 4ft by 2 ft tank. I guess I need to change the lighting. I think it’s coil. He did fine with the coil in the old tank with the sand substrate. So I wonder if I need to move him back He was in a 36 inch x 18 inch tank with sand. He hasn’t been drinking in tub. He is offered collard greens but won’t eat them. Basking temp 93. Just measured with gun. Thank you!
 

J4ckdaw-

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Beardie name(s)
Leo
Hi there 👋

The first thing I’d like to discuss is your lighting fixtures; to begin, what basking bulb do you use? Make sure the one you are using is not a coloured bulb, coloured bulbs will cause eye irritation and/or other issues.

The bulb you need will have a white light, sometimes it comes in shades of light yellow as well. Make sure it is not a deep heat projector, those will dry out your bearded dragon. Best to use halogen or reptile bulbs.

Your basking spot should be between 105-110 degrees Fahrenheit, since a bearded dragon’s preferred core tempura tire is 97 degrees which can be achieved by a basking spot of roughly 107 degrees.

Make sure you are measuring the temperature and humidity with a digital probe thermometer and hydrometer, stick-ons and temp guns are inaccurate 90% of the time. Temperatures are incredibly important.

The cool side (the side without the basking bulb) should be around 70-75 degrees, with an ambient of 85-90 degrees. Night temps shouldn’t be below 50 degrees. The humidity in the tank should be 30-48%.

Onto UVB; what type of fixture do you use? Please no coils! They are super inadequate, and provide minimally no UV for a reptile. If it’s a tube fixture, what brand is it? You want either a Reptisun or Arcadia bulb.

Other brands like Zilla or Zoomed are inferior and aren’t recommended. Make sure if it’s placed above the mesh it is 14% or if it’s placed below the mesh it’s a 12%, KarrieRae can help you with distance.

The labels you’re looking for on a UVB fixture is T5, HO, D3+ (if Arcadia), 12-14%. It should cover 3/4 of the enclosure with a variety of different UV levels on higher and lower areas in the tank.

With that out of the way, what is your bearded dragon’s diet? Absolutely don’t listen to anyone who says feed as much as he wants, he will become overweight. An overweight beardie doesn’t need protein.

You say he’s 3 years old? He should be eating mainly greens and vegetables, no fruit please as it attracts fungal life and causes tooth rot. Live feeders should be fed 2-3x a week, 5-6 appropriately sized feeder insects.

Good staple insects are crickets, roaches, superworms, mealworms, pheonix worms, and silkworms. Avoid bugs like Waxworms or butterworms, they are very, very fatty, they are meant to be used as a rare treat.

Make sure you are supplementing calcium at least 5x a week, adult beardies don’t need multivitamin as much though as yours won’t eat salad I’d suggest using some 2x a week to provide additional vitamins.

Calcium doesn’t need vitamin D (D3) if you have the proper UVB fixture, since it acts as the sun which provides us vitamin D. Vitamin D toxicity can occur if your bearded dragon is getting too much of it.

If you have plain calcium without D3 you can mix it with the multivitamin or get a premix to provide calcium 7x a week, since bugs don’t have bones but instead exoskeletons they have phosphorus.

Wild bearded dragons need a ratio of 2:1 for calcium but bearded dragons in captivity nowadays will need a much higher ratio as they were grown too quickly. In the wild it would take 2 years to fully grow.

Bearded dragons can be VERY picky animals, salad is commonly dejected by many from time to time. Try and get him to eat it by spraying it with water, sometimes they like their food shiny.

You could try sprinkling plain bee pollen on top, my boy loves it. You could try adding some food toppers (I like flower food toppers) or you could put some worms in the salad as a lure of the sorts.

Most importantly, give him a variety. Do trial and error to see what he likes. Make sure you don’t use calcium binders though, like spinach or broccoli. My boy loves collard greens and bell peppers.

Bearded dragons don’t need a water bowl, most won’t drink from it and it can be a hazard for drowning (rarely) and it will increase the humidity. Take it away immediately and mist his salads.

Don’t move him back to his old enclosure, the enclosure you have now (120 gallons) is the bare minimum for adults. Also ABSOLUTELY no sand, ever, unless it’s mixed with reptisoil/topsoil. Tile is fine.

Bearded dragons go through something called relocation stress which may be the cause for dejecting salads, it will take a few days, weeks or even months for him to fully adjust. It varies depending on the dragon.

Also, I thought I’d mention baths. They are completely unnecessary unless he visibly soils himself. The idea that they intake water through their skin or cloaca is a myth, mist his salads or food instead.

Hope this helped, if you have any questions feel free to ask.
 

KarrieRee

BD.org Sicko
Beardie name(s)
Hiccup he is 6 and Blaze is 4
Thank you. He’s in a 4ft by 2 ft tank. I guess I need to change the lighting. I think it’s coil. He did fine with the coil in the old tank with the sand substrate. So I wonder if I need to move him back He was in a 36 inch x 18 inch tank with sand. He hasn’t been drinking in tub. He is offered collard greens but won’t eat them. Basking temp 93. Just measured with gun. Thank you!
Please get rid of the coil immediately--- please leave him in the bigger tank --- optimal tank size is 4x2x2 -- this is the reason hes not eating or barely eating - he is basically getting NO uvb-- please get one of these
24" Arcadia Pro T 5 w/ a 12 % bulb 24 watt - heres a link-PetSmart is carrying these check there if you have one or you can order it on line Arcadia Reptile ProT5 UV-B Kit | reptile Light Fixtures | PetSmart
24" w/ a Reptisun 10.0 T 5 this one comes w/ a 5.0 bulb Zoo Med ReptiSun T5 HO High Output Terrarium Hood
Bulb 22" Zoo Med ReptiSun 10.0 UVB Fluorescent T5 HO Bulb (22", 24 Watt) or this fixure
you want a 2ft or 24" you will need to change the bulb out to the Reptisun above
https://hydrobuilder.com/sunblaster-nanotech-t5-ho-fixture-with-6400k-lamp.html
I looked at my go to websites for the bulb needed and everyone seems to be out of stock on this bulb -- if you can find it somewhere cheaper thats good - the screen on the tank is going to determine where the UVB goes it will determine placement and distance please post back on here when you get it --
 

Tlo16

Member
Original Poster
Beardie name(s)
Ralph
Hi there 👋

The first thing I’d like to discuss is your lighting fixtures; to begin, what basking bulb do you use? Make sure the one you are using is not a coloured bulb, coloured bulbs will cause eye irritation and/or other issues.

The bulb you need will have a white light, sometimes it comes in shades of light yellow as well. Make sure it is not a deep heat projector, those will dry out your bearded dragon. Best to use halogen or reptile bulbs.

Your basking spot should be between 105-110 degrees Fahrenheit, since a bearded dragon’s preferred core tempura tire is 97 degrees which can be achieved by a basking spot of roughly 107 degrees.

Make sure you are measuring the temperature and humidity with a digital probe thermometer and hydrometer, stick-ons and temp guns are inaccurate 90% of the time. Temperatures are incredibly important.

The cool side (the side without the basking bulb) should be around 70-75 degrees, with an ambient of 85-90 degrees. Night temps shouldn’t be below 50 degrees. The humidity in the tank should be 30-48%.

Onto UVB; what type of fixture do you use? Please no coils! They are super inadequate, and provide minimally no UV for a reptile. If it’s a tube fixture, what brand is it? You want either a Reptisun or Arcadia bulb.

Other brands like Zilla or Zoomed are inferior and aren’t recommended. Make sure if it’s placed above the mesh it is 14% or if it’s placed below the mesh it’s a 12%, KarrieRae can help you with distance.

The labels you’re looking for on a UVB fixture is T5, HO, D3+ (if Arcadia), 12-14%. It should cover 3/4 of the enclosure with a variety of different UV levels on higher and lower areas in the tank.

With that out of the way, what is your bearded dragon’s diet? Absolutely don’t listen to anyone who says feed as much as he wants, he will become overweight. An overweight beardie doesn’t need protein.

You say he’s 3 years old? He should be eating mainly greens and vegetables, no fruit please as it attracts fungal life and causes tooth rot. Live feeders should be fed 2-3x a week, 5-6 appropriately sized feeder insects.

Good staple insects are crickets, roaches, superworms, mealworms, pheonix worms, and silkworms. Avoid bugs like Waxworms or butterworms, they are very, very fatty, they are meant to be used as a rare treat.

Make sure you are supplementing calcium at least 5x a week, adult beardies don’t need multivitamin as much though as yours won’t eat salad I’d suggest using some 2x a week to provide additional vitamins.

Calcium doesn’t need vitamin D (D3) if you have the proper UVB fixture, since it acts as the sun which provides us vitamin D. Vitamin D toxicity can occur if your bearded dragon is getting too much of it.

If you have plain calcium without D3 you can mix it with the multivitamin or get a premix to provide calcium 7x a week, since bugs don’t have bones but instead exoskeletons they have phosphorus.

Wild bearded dragons need a ratio of 2:1 for calcium but bearded dragons in captivity nowadays will need a much higher ratio as they were grown too quickly. In the wild it would take 2 years to fully grow.

Bearded dragons can be VERY picky animals, salad is commonly dejected by many from time to time. Try and get him to eat it by spraying it with water, sometimes they like their food shiny.

You could try sprinkling plain bee pollen on top, my boy loves it. You could try adding some food toppers (I like flower food toppers) or you could put some worms in the salad as a lure of the sorts.

Most importantly, give him a variety. Do trial and error to see what he likes. Make sure you don’t use calcium binders though, like spinach or broccoli. My boy loves collard greens and bell peppers.

Bearded dragons don’t need a water bowl, most won’t drink from it and it can be a hazard for drowning (rarely) and it will increase the humidity. Take it away immediately and mist his salads.

Don’t move him back to his old enclosure, the enclosure you have now (120 gallons) is the bare minimum for adults. Also ABSOLUTELY no sand, ever, unless it’s mixed with reptisoil/topsoil. Tile is fine.

Bearded dragons go through something called relocation stress which may be the cause for dejecting salads, it will take a few days, weeks or even months for him to fully adjust. It varies depending on the dragon.

Also, I thought I’d mention baths. They are completely unnecessary unless he visibly soils himself. The idea that they intake water through their skin or cloaca is a myth, mist his salads or food instead.

Hope this helped, if you have any questions feel free to ask.
Thank you so much. I have pretty much all of this in place. Will purchase better lighting and see. Appreciate the detailed help.
 

Tlo16

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Original Poster
Beardie name(s)
Ralph
Please get rid of the coil immediately--- please leave him in the bigger tank --- optimal tank size is 4x2x2 -- this is the reason hes not eating or barely eating - he is basically getting NO uvb-- please get one of these
24" Arcadia Pro T 5 w/ a 12 % bulb 24 watt - heres a link-PetSmart is carrying these check there if you have one or you can order it on line Arcadia Reptile ProT5 UV-B Kit | reptile Light Fixtures | PetSmart
24" w/ a Reptisun 10.0 T 5 this one comes w/ a 5.0 bulb Zoo Med ReptiSun T5 HO High Output Terrarium Hood
Bulb 22" Zoo Med ReptiSun 10.0 UVB Fluorescent T5 HO Bulb (22", 24 Watt) or this fixure
you want a 2ft or 24" you will need to change the bulb out to the Reptisun above
https://hydrobuilder.com/sunblaster-nanotech-t5-ho-fixture-with-6400k-lamp.html
I looked at my go to websites for the bulb needed and everyone seems to be out of stock on this bulb -- if you can find it somewhere cheaper thats good - the screen on the tank is going to determine where the UVB goes it will determine placement and distance please post back on here when you get it --
Thank you for the links. Just ordered the Arcadia from petsmart. Will the bulb that ones comes with be okay? And what about at night?
 

KarrieRee

BD.org Sicko
Beardie name(s)
Hiccup he is 6 and Blaze is 4
Thank you for the links. Just ordered the Arcadia from petsmart. Will the bulb that ones comes with be okay? And what about at night?
Yes use that bulb --- what do you mean about night? Your placement and distance will be determined by the screen on the tank - please post when you get it
 

Tlo16

Member
Original Poster
Beardie name(s)
Ralph
Yes use that bulb --- what do you mean about night? Your placement and distance will be determined by the screen on the tank - please post when you get it
I thought day lighting was one thing and at night it should be something with lower heat. I appreciate your help.
 

hdochow

Sub-Adult Member
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Beardie name(s)
Sir Henry of Scales
for night, they need cool and dark. no lights at all. if the enclosure drops below about 65° at night, you can use a ceramic heat emitter. they are heat only, but no light.
 

Tlo16

Member
Original Poster
Beardie name(s)
Ralph
Please get rid of the coil immediately--- please leave him in the bigger tank --- optimal tank size is 4x2x2 -- this is the reason hes not eating or barely eating - he is basically getting NO uvb-- please get one of these
24" Arcadia Pro T 5 w/ a 12 % bulb 24 watt - heres a link-PetSmart is carrying these check there if you have one or you can order it on line Arcadia Reptile ProT5 UV-B Kit | reptile Light Fixtures | PetSmart
24" w/ a Reptisun 10.0 T 5 this one comes w/ a 5.0 bulb Zoo Med ReptiSun T5 HO High Output Terrarium Hood
Bulb 22" Zoo Med ReptiSun 10.0 UVB Fluorescent T5 HO Bulb (22", 24 Watt) or this fixure
you want a 2ft or 24" you will need to change the bulb out to the Reptisun above
https://hydrobuilder.com/sunblaster-nanotech-t5-ho-fixture-with-6400k-lamp.html
I looked at my go to websites for the bulb needed and everyone seems to be out of stock on this bulb -- if you can find it somewhere cheaper thats good - the screen on the tank is going to determine where the UVB goes it will determine placement and distance please post back on here when you get it --
Hi! I have the Arcadia Pro up and running and saw a difference almost immediately! Question - can I continue using my old coil lights for additional heat and basking ( Arcadia light alone does not seem to provide enough of a proper day temp). Thanks again!
 

KarrieRee

BD.org Sicko
Beardie name(s)
Hiccup he is 6 and Blaze is 4
Hi! I have the Arcadia Pro up and running and saw a difference almost immediately! Question - can I continue using my old coil lights for additional heat and basking ( Arcadia light alone does not seem to provide enough of a proper day temp). Thanks again!
You need a solid clear bright white basking bulb that keeps temps to what you need them - examples are Exo Terra Intense -- Flukers basking-- or Arcadia Halogen - digital probe thermometers to get actual surface basking temps - how old is the dragon? Please get a piece of basking decor directly under the UVB approx 12-15 inches --NO more coils -- please get rid of them
 
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Hazel_Basil10

Sub-Adult Member
Beardie name(s)
Hazel my female two year old beardie
Hi! I have the Arcadia Pro up and running and saw a difference almost immediately! Question - can I continue using my old coil lights for additional heat and basking ( Arcadia light alone does not seem to provide enough of a proper day temp). Thanks again!
That's great you got rid of the coils. Coils are the worst light and I agree with KarrieRee you don't want to use the Coil just throw it out or something and get a basking bulb.
 

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