Residue/crust or sore lips

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dizzy1

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Hi everyone,

Hoping you guys can help me. My sons beardy spike has some type of residue or crust on his lips. At first I thought maybe it was residue from eating crickets but I’ve tried cleaning it off with a warm cloth but it doesn’t seem to be doing anything. I don’t want to try too hard because I’m afraid of hurting him. I did some research and thought that maybe it’s mouth rot but I’m not sure. Help would be appreciated
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KarrieRee

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Hiccup he is 6 and Blaze is 4
I am not sure what that is and your not able to get it off ? What is the substrate in the tank? What have you been feeding? Crickets what else? Have you looked in his mouth? If you can get a shot of inside the mouth would be helpfull-- I am going to flag to AHBD and Tracie the vet tech mod so they can look -- in the meantime please post what your using for a UVB brand and bulb coil or tube -- basking temps what are they and how are you taking them-- NO stick ons please -- these things I am asking about is crucial to the dragons health ---
 

dizzy1

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I was able to wipe off very little but I didn’t want scrub too hard because I’m scared of hurting him.I have carpet. Feeding him crickets dusted with calcium. Occasionally dubia roaches and veggies in the morning. I have the zoo med 22” t5h0 for uvb. Basking temp is usually between 95-105 degrees using a digital thermometer. What’s the best way for me to take a pic of inside his mouth?
 

KarrieRee

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Hiccup he is 6 and Blaze is 4
I am not sure -- maybe have someone help you -- using a credit card to pry the mouth open -- is his lips sore do you know? The lighting is good --- and temps are good - the UVB is placed where? top of screen or inside the tank -- maybe AHBD or Tracie can help w/ getting the mouth open as well --
 

AHBD

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Hi there, is he eating well or has he stopped ? That does look like mouth rot or infection, it would need vet attention if it is. A vet would debride that and put him on antibiotics. Do you have betadine at home or raw honey. Raw [ unpasteurized ] honey is great on wounds. Try watered down betadine on a soft towel to gently scrub more of that off , then apply the raw honey.
 

dizzy1

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His appetite has been good. Also his stool. His overall daily behavior is normal. I’d have to buy both things I don’t have any at home.
 

AHBD

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It's good that he's still eating but if that's mouth rot it usually progresses until they stop eating. See if you can use the steps I mentioned and if it can't be cleaned off you'll need to see an experienced reptile vet.
 

AHBD

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You're welcome , hope everything turns out O.K .
Mouth rot, aka infectious stomatitis can be very serious so be looking for an experienced reptile vet.
 

kingofnobbys

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Might come off with his next lip and face shed.

Might be worth using a soggy paper towel rolled into a wad , hold it against the crusty stuff for a while to let moisture soften the crust , might then come off damp cotton earbuds.

If not I'd get hold of a little tube of Activon Manuka Honey , apply to area with cotton earbud .

Yep if this is persistent , a vet needs to see it.
 

Drache613

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Hello,

That does look pretty serious there. How long has his mouth appeared that way?
As suggested, try to find a good vet to help with an analysis. Manuka honey or, raw
unpasteurized honey would be very beneficial because it is an anti-microbial agent.
Is he eating very much right now?

Let us know how he is doing.

Tracie
 

dizzy1

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I just started the betadine and honey yesterday(Sunday). How long should I wait to see an improvement or take him to the vet?
 

AHBD

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Is there any change ? I think it needs vet care now before it gets worse, unless you're actually seeing improvement.
 
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