Is there a Pre-Brumation?

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Is there a Pre-Brumation?

Postby FlapJack16 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:32 pm

Hi,beginner scared beardie owner here,
I was wondering if there was such a thing as "Pre-Brumation."
I just read the Brumation article here on BD.com, and the behaviors seemed a little intense for what I am seeing.
My beardie (14mo) is eating a bit less insects, maybe 60 to 70% of his normal intake, and 20% of his normal overall interest.
He is using the restroom every other week
He is not touching his veggies at all- which isn't a huge change TBH
He half hides? He kinda hides under his half log basking spot, but I don't think he naps. I don't have anything for him to hide under at all. He has a couch and some precariously stacked wood.

He definitely isn't sleeping except for at night.
He still does his behavior where he looks out the glass and puts his hands on there.
He is very dark. but he usually doesn't have dark stress marks

Could he not be brumating, and instead have parasites?

Is he going to brumate?
Help!
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Re: Is there a Pre-Brumation?

Postby KarrieRee » Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:51 am

Your dragon needs a hide please get him one--- they can do the half brumation thing now - being more lazy not eating as much as it is the time of year for brumation -- pooping will slow down as well -- it is normal for them not to go poop for long periods of time -- keep him hydrated w/ him not eating his salads they get most of the moisture from that -- make sure your insects are gut loaded -- carrots are a good hydrator for that plus good food --- if your feeding dubias dubia food is good -- I use dubias and for some reason mine will not eat the greens I put in the tank for them so I switched to dubia food they will eat squash but will not touch the greens -- keep track of his weight kitchen food scale weigh in grams --- as long as hes basking eating and pooping and active or at least some what active hes fine- but I would get him a hide
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Re: Is there a Pre-Brumation?

Postby FlapJack16 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:13 pm

Thanks Karrie, I will start feeding my nasty lil roaches carrots, haha

I found some hides on amazon.

Option 1: (which my snake has)
https://www.amazon.com/Zipefy-Reptile-L ... a9081&th=1

^^ which size?



option 2:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N1 ... UN7H1KV96E
^^ size?


Shall I put the hide in the middle, or the cool side, or the warm side???

How should I keep him hydrated? Soaking once a week?

Thanks! Always appreciate your help! :D
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Re: Is there a Pre-Brumation?

Postby KarrieRee » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:24 pm

The reptile den is good --how big is the tank? I have one similar to that one and have it placed under the UVB my tank is a 4x2x2-- Blaze uses it alot for basking on top and sleeping in it -- he does have two hides one is a platform hide from Petsmart https://www.petsmart.com/reptile/habita ... gid=500116
Have you tried using BSFL to lure him to the salad bowl? -- does he drink from the bath water --- you can always drop water on his nose to see if he will drink or lick --
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Re: Is there a Pre-Brumation?

Postby FlapJack16 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:42 pm

Hey, thanks for the quick reply!

I have tried BSFL for him, thy are so small they don't register. Or he's just got attitude.
When he is in the bath. he does not drink water.
He does not lick drops off his nose.
I have heard though, that they retain water through their vent in baths?

If I cannot get him to do anything hydration wise during these next few months, I have some clean syringes from other animal things- would it be a bad idea to give him a bit of water orally every couple of weeks? Maybe just half a small syringe every two weeks. I think that is better than dehydration.. but i'm not sure if it's alright.

I will also try to get him to eat a few roaches here and there. If not, I will maintain a weekly weigh in- and it will be a chance for my roaches to become adults and start a colony? I guess?

What am I supposed to do about calcium, multivitamin, heating, and UVB light now???
I'm getting a bit worried,
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Re: Is there a Pre-Brumation?

Postby KarrieRee » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:48 pm

Continue to offer salads what size BSFL are you feeding? He need large ones --- the insects continue to dust them alternating between the vitamins and the Calcium -- dragons do not get water from the vent - dragons will drink when they are thirsty- you can give them water via syringe but do it very slowly so he does not aspirate -- you can tell that they are dehydrated by looking at their poop -- the poop needs to be formed moist and dark -- the urate white formed and moist not chalky or dried out looking
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