Zeros Heath/Behavior Compared to Other Dragons???

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Zeros Heath/Behavior Compared to Other Dragons???

Postby kstwrites90 » Sat Jan 25, 2020 12:40 pm

Hello Everyone,
I hope I'm posting this in the right category, since it's not about a particular dragon's health. Anyway... In the next few months, I will become a new dragon mommy, and I'm currently most interested in the zeros. I've heard they can have issues and genetic defects compared to other dragons that are closer to the dragon's core/original genetic makeup, the breeder I've chosen has said they usually don't have any major issues. Has anyone seen a difference health-wise for Zeros, and is their life expectancy about the same as others, despite apparently having lesser genetic strength? Health is the utmost importance to me; not the morph.
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Re: Zeros Heath/Behavior Compared to Other Dragons???

Postby claudiusx » Sat Jan 25, 2020 1:06 pm

Hi there,

Since they are a relatively new morph, genetics on them wouldn't be expected to be as "strong" as other morphs, simply because the bloodline is so new and hasn't been strengthened as much as it might need to be.

That doesn't mean that zeros are prone to genetic health issues while other morphs aren't. You can most definitely get a very healthy zero. It comes down to the breeders genetic practices though.

It's generally excepted and understood that hetxhet pairings produce the healthiest zero's as the bloodlines are the most diverse that way.

If your breeder is breeding visxvis or even visxhet I'd most likely reconsider. Although some claim visxhet is fine. Hetxhet would be prefered.

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Re: Zeros Heath/Behavior Compared to Other Dragons???

Postby kstwrites90 » Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:16 pm

claudiusx wrote:Hi there,

Since they are a relatively new morph, genetics on them wouldn't be expected to be as "strong" as other morphs, simply because the bloodline is so new and hasn't been strengthened as much as it might need to be.

That doesn't mean that zeros are prone to genetic health issues while other morphs aren't. You can most definitely get a very healthy zero. It comes down to the breeders genetic practices though.

It's generally excepted and understood that hetxhet pairings produce the healthiest zero's as the bloodlines are the most diverse that way.

If your breeder is breeding visxvis or even visxhet I'd most likely reconsider. Although some claim visxhet is fine. Hetxhet would be prefered.

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Thank you for answering. I'm uncertain what vis means, if you could elaborate on that? Then I'll ask the breeder about it to be certain.
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Re: Zeros Heath/Behavior Compared to Other Dragons???

Postby claudiusx » Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:41 pm

Sorry I will elaborate :)

Vis means visual, and het means heterozygous.

So if the dragon is het for zero, it simply means that have the zero gene, but don't visually show it.
If a dragon is vis, well obviously they show it :)

So best practice would be breeding 2 het zeros together (both parents don't actually show the zero trait).

OK to some would be breeding a Visual Zero to a het zero.

And most agree that Visual Zero to Visual Zero is not ok.

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Re: Zeros Heath/Behavior Compared to Other Dragons???

Postby DragonPete » Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:19 am

Brandon, you know entirely too much for a normal person! LMAO! 😆
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Re: Zeros Heath/Behavior Compared to Other Dragons???

Postby KarrieRee » Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:21 am

Yep -- I am more of a vis person everything else is mumbo jumbo :lol:
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Re: Zeros Heath/Behavior Compared to Other Dragons???

Postby kstwrites90 » Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:30 am

claudiusx wrote:Sorry I will elaborate :)

Vis means visual, and het means heterozygous.

So if the dragon is het for zero, it simply means that have the zero gene, but don't visually show it.
If a dragon is vis, well obviously they show it :)

So best practice would be breeding 2 het zeros together (both parents don't actually show the zero trait).

OK to some would be breeding a Visual Zero to a het zero.

And most agree that Visual Zero to Visual Zero is not ok.

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Gotcha! Thanks so much for elaborating on that. I will definitely be sure to ask the breeder about this. :).
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Re: Zeros Heath/Behavior Compared to Other Dragons???

Postby claudiusx » Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:44 am

No problem :)

Just be prepared for a very defensive answer If the breeder isnt doing hetxhet lol.

I know 1 or 2 breeders off hand who do visxvis and you can just tell from outward appearance that the babies look sickly.

Who were you looking into if you dont mind sharing?

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Re: Zeros Heath/Behavior Compared to Other Dragons???

Postby kstwrites90 » Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:29 pm

claudiusx wrote:No problem :)

Just be prepared for a very defensive answer If the breeder isnt doing hetxhet lol.

I know 1 or 2 breeders off hand who do visxvis and you can just tell from outward appearance that the babies look sickly.

Who were you looking into if you dont mind sharing?

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I don’t mind at all. I’m looking at Cliffhanger Reptiles LLC. So far I’ve been really impressed with them and what I’ve seen, and they don’t mind all the questions I’ve asked or make you feel silly for asking “newbie questions” like some do. They got back to me straight away with a really detailed answer. I haven’t asked about visxvis yet, as I was waiting on your answer lol. But I plan to. :).
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