Expert view on vitamin dosing/overdosing

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Expert view on vitamin dosing/overdosing

Postby AHBD » Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:21 am

I thought this article could be beneficial + answer some questions about this subject.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... 9KxcIslUIQ
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Re: Expert view on vitamin dosing/overdosing

Postby CooperDragon » Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:26 am

That's a good breakdown from a reputable source. One of the big reasons I use and recommend his products quite often.
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Re: Expert view on vitamin dosing/overdosing

Postby kingofnobbys » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:14 pm

Bookmarked .... thx
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Re: Expert view on vitamin dosing/overdosing

Postby Drache613 » Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:34 pm

Hello,

Great article from the reptile magazine. I completely agree.
I wish the information got out to more people regarding the importance of balance.
Thanks for posting it.

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Re: Expert view on vitamin dosing/overdosing

Postby kingofnobbys » Tue May 30, 2017 3:10 am

more recent study --- scientific paper in the journal COMPARATIVE BIOCHEMISTRY AND PHYSIOLOGY
(B) 2010

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Pertinent extract is marked with a red rectangle ....= see page 6 of the pdf file
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The main consequence of vitamin D toxicity is a buildup of calcium in your beardie's blood (hypercalcemia) and Hypervitaminosis D when too much vitamin D is ingested.
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EBTSs : George & Mildred (born july 2010).
EWSs : Lucky (wild juvenile), cat attack rescue, fatal SI RIP 21Jul2010.Wriggles (rescued injured),thought she was a big lizard, 7-8 yrs old, died in her sleep, RIP 2Feb2016). Fluffy rescued 14Nov2017 about 4 yrs old .
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Re: Expert view on vitamin dosing/overdosing

Postby Taterbug » Tue May 30, 2017 6:03 am

It's worth noting that while the discussion points based on other publications are probably quite relavent the UVb portion of the above paper ( https://www.vitamindwiki.com/dl959 ) failed to be replicated recently. ( http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... 12728/full ).

None of the animals in the control group had detectable levels of 25(OH)D3, whereas in the Arcadia group, all animals had levels above the detection limit of 4 nmol/L (Table 3). This group also had a higher mean 25(OH)D3 plasma concentration than the four other treatments, which were all close to the limit of detection.
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Re: Expert view on vitamin dosing/overdosing

Postby EllenD » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:28 am

Thanks so much for posting this, bookmarked it...
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Re: Expert view on vitamin dosing/overdosing

Postby kyleena29 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 4:13 pm

I have a question. I was looking at the Repashy calcium plus. It says use with every feeding. Would this be every day every feeding?
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Re: Expert view on vitamin dosing/overdosing

Postby CooperDragon » Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:59 am

kyleena29 wrote:I have a question. I was looking at the Repashy calcium plus. It says use with every feeding. Would this be every day every feeding?


Yes dust bugs lightly and evenly at every feeding every day. It only needs to be added to bugs, not salads.
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Re: Expert view on vitamin dosing/overdosing

Postby PDotson » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:29 pm

It is really helpful. Thanks for sharing that link of the article.
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Re: Expert view on vitamin dosing/overdosing

Postby kingofnobbys » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:47 am

A little bit of biochemistry regarding calcium, UVB & vitD3 : http://www.uvguide.co.uk/vitdpathway.htm , worth adding this here for completeness I think.
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Re: Expert view on vitamin dosing/overdosing

Postby ShaneBond » Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:45 am

Is it necessary to give vitamin dosage to my reptile? If yes then what are the original means of vitamin instead of artificial dosage.
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Re: Expert view on vitamin dosing/overdosing

Postby Taterbug » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:41 am

ShaneBond wrote:Is it necessary to give vitamin dosage to my reptile? If yes then what are the original means of vitamin instead of artificial dosage.


A few things are different that necessitate supplements. First our dragons get less variety of insects and plants to eat, and those insects get less variety to eat themselves. Also nature is a bit dirty, but dirt and such can contribute useful minerals from the soil. Finally in the wild many animals are known to seek out vitamins and minerals from unusual places, such as eating clay, chalk or animal bones.
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Re: Expert view on vitamin dosing/overdosing

Postby Danadoo » Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:11 am

Hi there
I have an 8 week old bearded dragon called Mia :-)
Everything is good but just after some advice on supplements,
I have vetark Calci-dust vetark nutrobal and reptivite wo D3
I have been dusting first feed(crickets) with Calci-dust 5 days a week and 2 days nutrobal do I need to use the
Reptivite ?
Also I was told to get Verm x and do this 3 days a week just a bit confused of what and when I should be giving her things :-/
Your advice would be great :-)
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Re: Expert view on vitamin dosing/overdosing

Postby CaptSquishy » Thu May 03, 2018 2:26 pm

So if I am understanding the article correctly having a daily dose of vitamin/minerals along with a small daily of calcium and D3 is okay and better than giving larger doses less often?
I am at the moment feeding my Dragon dusted veggies and Worms with a 3 days of Calcium and D3
and 3 day of dusted Vitamin mineral mix is this okay? Thanks again for feed back.
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