Expert view on vitamin dosing/overdosing

This forum is for general Beardie discussions that do not fit within other specialized forums. Please use a forum specific to your issue, if one applies.

Expert view on vitamin dosing/overdosing

Postby AHBD » Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:21 am

I thought this article could be beneficial + answer some questions about this subject.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... 9KxcIslUIQ
AHBD
BD.org Sicko
 
Posts: 17647
Joined: Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:20 am

Re: Expert view on vitamin dosing/overdosing

Postby CooperDragon » Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:26 am

That's a good breakdown from a reputable source. One of the big reasons I use and recommend his products quite often.
Image
User avatar
CooperDragon
BD.org Sicko
 
Posts: 17672
Joined: Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:41 am
Location: Iowa City, IA

Re: Expert view on vitamin dosing/overdosing

Postby kingofnobbys » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:14 pm

Bookmarked .... thx
CBDs: Puff ( RIP 10Dec2015 (3.2 years old (aneurism)) ,Rex (RIP 16Mar2017 at 4.6 yrs old (unexplained death)) , both adopted at 6wks old..Toothless & Peppa : (5 wks old 19dec2015).
Eastern BT Skinks : George & Mildred (born Sept 2010).
Eastern Water Skinks : Lucky (wild juvenile), rescued from a cat.Taken by a SI and far too soon, 9mths with us. RIP 21Jul2010.Wriggles - (rescued injured), small lizard thought she was a big lizard, 7-8 yrs old, died in her sleep, RIP 2Feb2016.)
kingofnobbys
BD.org Addict
 
Posts: 6765
Joined: Tue May 12, 2015 10:56 pm

Re: Expert view on vitamin dosing/overdosing

Postby Drache613 » Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:34 pm

Hello,

Great article from the reptile magazine. I completely agree.
I wish the information got out to more people regarding the importance of balance.
Thanks for posting it.

Tracie
User avatar
Drache613
Moderator
Moderator
 
Posts: 33927
Joined: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:33 pm
Location: May, Texas

Re: Expert view on vitamin dosing/overdosing

Postby kingofnobbys » Tue May 30, 2017 3:10 am

more recent study --- scientific paper in the journal COMPARATIVE BIOCHEMISTRY AND PHYSIOLOGY
(B) 2010

Image
Pertinent extract is marked with a red rectangle ....= see page 6 of the pdf file
Image

The main consequence of vitamin D toxicity is a buildup of calcium in your beardie's blood (hypercalcemia) and Hypervitaminosis D when too much vitamin D is ingested.
CBDs: Puff ( RIP 10Dec2015 (3.2 years old (aneurism)) ,Rex (RIP 16Mar2017 at 4.6 yrs old (unexplained death)) , both adopted at 6wks old..Toothless & Peppa : (5 wks old 19dec2015).
Eastern BT Skinks : George & Mildred (born Sept 2010).
Eastern Water Skinks : Lucky (wild juvenile), rescued from a cat.Taken by a SI and far too soon, 9mths with us. RIP 21Jul2010.Wriggles - (rescued injured), small lizard thought she was a big lizard, 7-8 yrs old, died in her sleep, RIP 2Feb2016.)
kingofnobbys
BD.org Addict
 
Posts: 6765
Joined: Tue May 12, 2015 10:56 pm

Re: Expert view on vitamin dosing/overdosing

Postby Taterbug » Tue May 30, 2017 6:03 am

It's worth noting that while the discussion points based on other publications are probably quite relavent the UVb portion of the above paper ( https://www.vitamindwiki.com/dl959 ) failed to be replicated recently. ( http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... 12728/full ).

None of the animals in the control group had detectable levels of 25(OH)D3, whereas in the Arcadia group, all animals had levels above the detection limit of 4 nmol/L (Table 3). This group also had a higher mean 25(OH)D3 plasma concentration than the four other treatments, which were all close to the limit of detection.
User avatar
Taterbug
BD.org Addict
 
Posts: 5545
Joined: Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:13 am
Location: Central Ohio

Re: Expert view on vitamin dosing/overdosing

Postby EllenD » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:28 am

Thanks so much for posting this, bookmarked it...
"Dance like nobody's watching..."
EllenD
Sub-Adult Poster
 
Posts: 1230
Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:08 pm
Location: State College, PA

Re: Expert view on vitamin dosing/overdosing

Postby kyleena29 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 4:13 pm

I have a question. I was looking at the Repashy calcium plus. It says use with every feeding. Would this be every day every feeding?
kyleena29
Sub-Adult Poster
 
Posts: 760
Joined: Mon Sep 05, 2016 6:53 pm

Re: Expert view on vitamin dosing/overdosing

Postby CooperDragon » Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:59 am

kyleena29 wrote:I have a question. I was looking at the Repashy calcium plus. It says use with every feeding. Would this be every day every feeding?


Yes dust bugs lightly and evenly at every feeding every day. It only needs to be added to bugs, not salads.
Image
User avatar
CooperDragon
BD.org Sicko
 
Posts: 17672
Joined: Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:41 am
Location: Iowa City, IA

Re: Expert view on vitamin dosing/overdosing

Postby PDotson » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:29 pm

It is really helpful. Thanks for sharing that link of the article.
PDotson
Newbie Poster
 
Posts: 8
Joined: Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:39 pm

Re: Expert view on vitamin dosing/overdosing

Postby kingofnobbys » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:47 am

A little bit of biochemistry regarding calcium, UVB & vitD3 : http://www.uvguide.co.uk/vitdpathway.htm , worth adding this here for completeness I think.
CBDs: Puff ( RIP 10Dec2015 (3.2 years old (aneurism)) ,Rex (RIP 16Mar2017 at 4.6 yrs old (unexplained death)) , both adopted at 6wks old..Toothless & Peppa : (5 wks old 19dec2015).
Eastern BT Skinks : George & Mildred (born Sept 2010).
Eastern Water Skinks : Lucky (wild juvenile), rescued from a cat.Taken by a SI and far too soon, 9mths with us. RIP 21Jul2010.Wriggles - (rescued injured), small lizard thought she was a big lizard, 7-8 yrs old, died in her sleep, RIP 2Feb2016.)
kingofnobbys
BD.org Addict
 
Posts: 6765
Joined: Tue May 12, 2015 10:56 pm

Re: Expert view on vitamin dosing/overdosing

Postby ShaneBond » Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:45 am

Is it necessary to give vitamin dosage to my reptile? If yes then what are the original means of vitamin instead of artificial dosage.
ShaneBond
Newbie Poster
 
Posts: 1
Joined: Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:29 am
Location: London

Re: Expert view on vitamin dosing/overdosing

Postby Taterbug » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:41 am

ShaneBond wrote:Is it necessary to give vitamin dosage to my reptile? If yes then what are the original means of vitamin instead of artificial dosage.


A few things are different that necessitate supplements. First our dragons get less variety of insects and plants to eat, and those insects get less variety to eat themselves. Also nature is a bit dirty, but dirt and such can contribute useful minerals from the soil. Finally in the wild many animals are known to seek out vitamins and minerals from unusual places, such as eating clay, chalk or animal bones.
User avatar
Taterbug
BD.org Addict
 
Posts: 5545
Joined: Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:13 am
Location: Central Ohio


Return to General Discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users