My Bearded Dragon is acting strange! Panicking new mom!

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I'll start from the beginning.

About a week ago we moved Dabs into her new cage.
New light fixture.
New under tank heater.
New perching log.

Her old set up was a 21G long, with a double dome light fixture, with individual bulbs for the UVB and Heat and an undertank heater on one side. Temps were 95-110 on the hot side 80 or so on the cool.

New tank is a 40 G W front opening terrarium type tank, with a single fixture for UVB and Heat up top (Solar Combo Bulb/Mercury Vapor Bulb) as well as an under tank heater.
Temps are in the low hundreds on the hot side, and steady at 80 degrees F on the cool. According to my thermometers there isn't much of a humidity or temp change compared to her last setup.

We have been feeding, dusting and interacting with her the same.

She's been super frantic and stressed out over her reflection in the glass sides of her tank and I've spent the last week trying to cover with the appropriate color/pattern paper or poster to aid her in some way to not see herself ALL DAY.

We settled on plain white paper. It seems to be helping.

HOWEVER!

She has been spending the entire day lazy with her eyes closed and seemingly uninterested in anything that's going on around her. As I type this she's passed out on my chest not even awake enough to grab my shirt like she normally does.

She's displayed this behavior ever since we switched her enclosure. We wake up very early in my home and in the morning time she seems more alert and will go after crickets and veggies, but is limp and out of it by the time I'm home from work eight hours later.

She also has been having these little bitty poops sometimes multiple times a day when she used to have one big BM every few days. Urates are still white when I see them and the poo itself seems solid enough.

I don't know what could be wrong.

Any suggestions? She's only six months old or so and I am a first time bearded dragon owner.

I know there's a thing called brumation but I hears that's more a winter thing and I live in Florida so it's not really ever THAT cold here. But I'm not even sure what to look for with that.

I also thought maybe switching to a combination bulb instead of two individual bulbs might be keeping her from getting all the UVB she needs but I don't know what they'd be acting like if that was the case either.

I looked into her possibly being dehydrated but she doesn't drink water from her baths at all, she sometimes will if I spray her but mostly she looks at me with a very annoyed face.

I haven't altered her diet of crickets and mustard greens at all, I offer her the same amounts daiky whether she decided she to eat is another story.

She eats medium sized crickets, dusted with Calcium that has D3 and on weekends I sometimes use a vitamin powder mix as well. I also treat her from time to time with discoid roaches.

She also hasn't shed in almost two months. I've soaked, I've sprayed, etc. But I also was told as they age they shed less.


I am more than willing to answer any inquires you have.
I am open to any and all suggestions.
If she isn't better soon I'll have to seek out a vet but I'm working on a low income budget so if I could help her without that I would prefer it since they're not forgiving with pricing around where I live.
 

AHBD

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Hi there, can you post pics of her as well as her set up, showing the light placement ? Here's how to post pics :

https://www.beardeddragon.org/useruploads/ Then use the XIMG to upload them

Is your Solar glo a 125 or 160 ? And what type of thermometer are you using ? The stick on round ones can register the wrong temps., so you want to be sure it's not too hot.
 

ColonelCupcakes

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AHBD":1hfhr9ql said:
Hi there, can you post pics of her as well as her set up, showing the light placement ? Here's how to post pics :

https://www.beardeddragon.org/useruploads/ Then use the XIMG to upload them

Is your Solar glo a 125 or 160 ? And what type of thermometer are you using ? The stick on round ones can register the wrong temps., so you want to be sure it's not too hot.


Her enclosure is all dark right now but I'll get photos first thing tomorrow morning! (Also thank you for telling me how to upload on here) It's a 160 bulb, I have a lamp fixture holding her lamp about an inch from the top of her cage. I'm using the oval shaped/round zoo med thermometers on each side of her cage placed in the very center of each side panel of glass. On the warm side she has her under tank heater as well which remains on even when the lights are off. She normally will go to her cool side if she isn't feeling the warmth but she stays on the warm side and sleeps nestled up against the glass.
 

AHBD

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Hmmmm....the 160 is probably making the tank too hot. What is the temp. in the room she's in ?
 

ColonelCupcakes

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AHBD":18c5n2xu said:
Hmmmm....the 160 is probably making the tank too hot. What is the temp. in the room she's in ?

We keep the house mid 70's, the A/C vent is right above our door which the tank is in direct line with so I've kept one half of the top screen blocked partially to try and prevent drafts.
 

ColonelCupcakes

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AHBD":333lyjf7 said:
Hi there, can you post pics of her as well as her set up, showing the light placement ? Here's how to post pics :

https://www.beardeddragon.org/useruploads/ Then use the XIMG to upload them

Is your Solar glo a 125 or 160 ? And what type of thermometer are you using ? The stick on round ones can register the wrong temps., so you want to be sure it's not too hot.


Here are the photos as requested!

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This is her tank, we've been using paper to block her reflections to see if keeping her calm will maybe give her less reason to be tired all day.

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This is the thermometer I have on her warm side, the lights had been on for about forty-five minutes when I took this. On her cool side it's not a combo just the thermometer and it read 80 degrees F.

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This is Dabs this morning, she isn't a fan of my cellphone, so this is the best I could get without her moving. (7/31/18)

And for some kind of reference this is her from a few weeks ago before the big move and weird behavior.

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CooperDragon

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You might consider moving to a T5 for the UVB in that tank so you can adjust the heat separately. The fine mesh top does block a lot of the UVB so it should be safe at that distance when it's suspended overhead like that. The top of the basking log is about 12'' from the top (the plastic bar is 6'' up) so it's just right for a T5 though. I do suggest using a digital thermometer with a probe for the basking surface and one for the cool side. That will give you a much better idea of the gradients across the tank. The ambient temps and A/C shouldn't be a problem at all.
 
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