urgent temperature help !!!

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hey I previously posted on here asking for advice on temperature. I finally got it figured out... and then the light fixture I had blew. So I bought a new one, and I'm back to square one trying to figure out how the heck to get the temperatures right. Sooo I have a 100 watt repti basking bulb, Im using the zoo med deep dome single light fixture. 40 gallon tank with a UVB tube mounted inside. The basking spot it maybe 5 iches off the ground (I will try to find pre-existing photos as I am not home right now), it reaches 118 F!!!! Ive tried a 75 w bulb and it doesn't even reach 90, stays in the mid 80's; I tried raising the basking spot but it only increases a few degrees. I have done endless research and I cant find any advice to help fix this. Would getting a lamp stand help resolve this? The only concern I have is that the cool end would become too hot ?

This is a bad pic bc it was right before I cleaned her tank, but the basking spot is in the back with the green bits on it
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KarrieRee

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Hiccup he is 6 and Blaze is 4
Please post a pic of the whole tank so we can see better -- what was the bulb that blew and why did you not replace it w/ the same one if you had gotten it straightened out?
Karrie
 

WinFam01

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I set our dome up on a couple of small pieces of 2x4 to raise it just a bit and lowered the basking spot temp. I keep just the edges of the wood blocks under the dome rim to keep from setting them on fire. ;)
 

KarrieRee

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Hiccup he is 6 and Blaze is 4
Ok so that is not good ---- what size is your tank? and what is the bulb you have in their now I need height of the tank
Karrie
 

Gandalfthebeardiee

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KarrieRee":etg2ro1d said:
Please post a pic of the whole tank so we can see better -- what was the bulb that blew and why did you not replace w/ the same one if you had gotten it straightened out?
Karrie

Both the bulb and the light fixture blew and no longer worked.The light fixture I had previously was discontinued. I got the same bulb that I had previously (100 watt repti basking bulb). Previously I had dual deep dome light fixture however I used only one side since I have a tube uvb light, and since I was discontinued I decided to get a single light, deep dome fixture. I have a 40 gallon tank, 36"Lx18"Wx18"H

This is an old picture, I changed some of the decor out but this is the only picture I have since I'm at work right now.
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KarrieRee

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Hiccup he is 6 and Blaze is 4
Ok so how are you getting the temp? NO stick ons and I did not see a digital probe thermometer-- your UVB your using now does it have a reflector on it? If not I recommend you getting one- - he is not getting any UVB w/ the way its mounted if the same way shown in the pic-- and your UVB should not be blowing out before you change it out-- they are only good for 6 months for a T 8 and 1 year for a T 5 ---
Karrie
 

Gandalfthebeardiee

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KarrieRee":19xuplq7 said:
Ok so how are you getting the temp? NO stick ons and I did not see a digital probe thermometer-- your UVB your using now does it have a reflector on it? If not I recommend you getting one- - he is not getting any UVB w/ the way its mounted if the same way shown in the pic-- and your UVB should not be blowing out before you change it out-- they are only good for 6 months for a T 8 and 1 year for a T 5 ---
Karrie

My UVB didn't blow out, it was the basking bulb which I only had for 2 months and I've had my UVB tube for 1 month. On a post I posted months ago on a different account I was told not to use a reflector on my UVB because it blocked the UVB from its full potential additionally I asked my vet about it and he said that if it's mounted inside that it is fine... and I use a temp gun because I believe you told me on a different post to buy a temperature gun, which I did and that is how I get my temperature. My bearded dragon bites at the probe thermometer's wire so I took it out.

Additionally, I came here for help with my basking spot temperature. My tank is a 40 gallon, 18" in height. The 75 watt, like I previously stated, only gets the basking spot to the mid 80's to low 90's and leaves the cool end of the tank in the mid 70's. I just needed advice on how I could fix this issue.
 

KarrieRee

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Hiccup he is 6 and Blaze is 4
Ok so good a temp gun is good -- and naughty dragon for trying to eat the probe :roll: -- ok so about the UVB the reflector intensifies the UVB rays for one and two it directs the rays downward towards the dragon --- w/out it its basically doing no good - your rays are all over the tank so to speak w/ out getting to him --- here is website to get a reflector www.http://www.lightyourreptiles.com/miscellaneous-accessories/arcadia-flourescent-lamp-reflectors-new-hot/
You have a nice piece of decor if your still using the one under the basking light -- it would offer a heat gradient for him -- are you getting different readings off the piece ? And your using a 100 watt bulb and the 75 doesnt get hot enough? Correct?
Karrie
 

Gandalfthebeardiee

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KarrieRee":6ga5h1d7 said:
Ok so good a temp gun is good -- and naughty dragon for trying to eat the probe :roll: -- ok so about the UVB the reflector intensifies the UVB rays for one and two it directs the rays downward towards the dragon --- w/out it its basically doing no good - your rays are all over the tank so to speak w/ out getting to him --- here is website to get a reflector www.http://www.lightyourreptiles.com/miscellaneous-accessories/arcadia-flourescent-lamp-reflectors-new-hot/
You have a nice piece of decor if your still using the one under the basking light -- it would offer a heat gradient for him -- are you getting different readings off the piece ? And your using a 100 watt bulb and the 75 doesnt get hot enough? Correct?
Karrie

I will definitely look into the reflectors!! I got a different piece for my dragon to bask on mainly because she got too big to lay on the piece that is shown in the picture of my entire set up. I can try and get my brother who is home rn to send a recent picture if you would like one ? and you are correct, I have a 100 watt bulb in right now and the 75 watt wasn't getting hot enough.
 

KarrieRee

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Ok so it could be the piece thats absorbing too much heat -- what is it wood rock resin? And sometimes heat guns will not pick up correct heat temps off of certain decor material -- so w/ that being said we need to test the gun w/ a different material -- and I want you to put the probe back in first before you do anything else on the piece your using - thats gonna tell us if the gun is off --
Karrie
 

Gandalfthebeardiee

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KarrieRee":3gf93ai8 said:
Ok so it could be the piece thats absorbing too much heat -- what is it wood rock resin? And sometimes heat guns will not pick up correct heat temps off of certain decor material -- so w/ that being said we need to test the gun w/ a different material -- and I want you to put the probe back in first before you do anything else on the piece your using - thats gonna tell us if the gun is off --
Karrie

Here is her tank modern day, I just read on the temp gun directions it said that shiny, semi gloss, and reflective surfaces can give off faulty readings and to put a piece of masking tape over a spot and leave for 45 minutes then point the temp gun. I believe it is made out of resin, both of the decor pieces. How long should I leave the probe in for an accurate reading ?
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Gandalfthebeardiee

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KarrieRee":2bz1dmto said:
10 minutes -- I have a piece of decor made out of resin from petsmart and it does not throw my heat gun off - here is the piece I have but when I got mine it was from All Living Things Thrive has taken over this piece now https://www.petsmart.com/reptile/habitats-and-decor/habitat-decor/thrive-driftwood-reptile-decor-54734.html?cgid=500116
here is Blaze on this same piece
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Karrie

The probe was left in for 10 minutes and was at 107, however it kept going up after that, right now it's at 113, is that worrisome?
 

KarrieRee

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Hiccup he is 6 and Blaze is 4
Yes that is too hot --- you dont want it over 110--- so your temp gun is more than likely not off --- I would go down to the 75 watt do the same thing and see what the temp is w/ that then we will need to go from there - you may haft get a stand and raise the fixture so its hanging above the screen mesh if the 75 watt is not getting temps up -- I would also look at getting a piece of decor that gives a gradient heat rather than one spot for basking
Karrie
 

Gandalfthebeardiee

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KarrieRee":33s260sb said:
Yes that is too hot --- you dont want it over 110--- so your temp gun is more than likely not off --- I would go down to the 75 watt do the same thing and see what the temp is w/ that then we will need to go from there - you may haft get a stand and raise the fixture so its hanging above the screen mesh if the 75 watt is not getting temps up -- I would also look at getting a piece of decor that gives a gradient heat rather than one spot for basking
Karrie

Thank you so much! I will switch the bulbs and let you know what it reads at.
 
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