New Bearded Dragon, Some New Owner Stress

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Re: New Bearded Dragon, Some New Owner Stress

Postby AHBD » Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:08 pm

Lots of good advice from Karrie so far. :) I would avoid even small superworms for now until he's a bit larger and you're more certain that he's eating + digesting everything good. One more suggestion, be sure that any crickets are smaller than the distance between his eyes.
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Re: New Bearded Dragon, Some New Owner Stress

Postby erodred » Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:21 pm

AHBD wrote:Lots of good advice from Karrie so far. :) I would avoid even small superworms for now until he's a bit larger and you're more certain that he's eating + digesting everything good. One more suggestion, be sure that any crickets are smaller than the distance between his eyes.


Thanks! Even though I bought "small" I feel like some are pretty large right now. Are we talking length or width for the cricket size?
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Re: New Bearded Dragon, Some New Owner Stress

Postby KarrieRee » Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:29 pm

Just make sure he has 2 -3 hrs of basking time after eating--- the super worms will be fine if you can get small ones and good luck on the butter worms - they are a great worm to feed nice and soft
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Re: New Bearded Dragon, Some New Owner Stress

Postby AHBD » Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:33 pm

It's the length. This is like a rule of thumb, as the dragon gets older + bigger that is not much of a problem anymore. And the superworms MAY be fine but many stores mark them as small when they're still too big. Very small, a half to 3/4 inch may be fine for some but I'd rather err on the side of caution.
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Re: New Bearded Dragon, Some New Owner Stress

Postby erodred » Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:46 pm

AHBD wrote:It's the length. This is like a rule of thumb, as the dragon gets older + bigger that is not much of a problem anymore. And the superworms MAY be fine but many stores mark them as small when they're still too big. Very small, a half to 3/4 inch may be fine for some but I'd rather err on the side of caution.


The length of the cricket changes everything.... I felt if they are skinny enough between the eyes they can go down his throat easily... will be more picky with the crickets.
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Re: New Bearded Dragon, Some New Owner Stress

Postby erodred » Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:34 am

So today I made a quick kale and butterworm salad. I tore up some kale and I started adding some butterworms to it. I did this in front of his tank and he literally dove from the tree and was trying to get through the glass to my container of butter worms. I then put his dish inside the enclosure and took the container away. He did go on top of his dish and take a peak but he chose to climb back into his tree. Did I do anything wrong?

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Re: New Bearded Dragon, Some New Owner Stress

Postby KarrieRee » Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:39 am

Put the dish in the tank and add the worms --- you got his attention -- do it again in front of him but in the tank - set it down in front of him where hes sitting - he will come -
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Re: New Bearded Dragon, Some New Owner Stress

Postby WinFam01 » Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:34 am

No, it just takes some trial and error. Sounds like he didn't see anything move right away and gave up too quickly. When our girl does that I just put her back in front of the dish and stir it around a bit.
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Re: New Bearded Dragon, Some New Owner Stress

Postby erodred » Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:04 am

He ate 2 butterworms but didnt eat the salad. I tried to offer the third one by hand but he refused. But at least he got something in his belly which is a small victory. Do you recommend I try crickets tonight or let his stomach just handle the smaller meal as he deals with some stress. I do think when I moved the UVB bulb inside that it stressed him out a bit. I made a bit of loud noises. I also bought some heat resistant zip ties and tied it down to make sure it will provide an extra level of security with the command velcro strips.
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Re: New Bearded Dragon, Some New Owner Stress

Postby KarrieRee » Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:35 am

Yes offer him his insects- keep up w/ the salads in the morning-- try disabling the crickets by pulling a leg or two off and adding them to the bowl in front of him- see how that goes- you can also order some small super worms and horn worms from here www.dubiaroaches.com order medium hornworms they will come small and order small amounts they grow really fast--- feed 1-3 on his salads add in front of him - they will squirm and get his attention--
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Re: New Bearded Dragon, Some New Owner Stress

Postby erodred » Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:58 am

And I should offer him his salad about two hours after lights on?
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Re: New Bearded Dragon, Some New Owner Stress

Postby KarrieRee » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:01 am

About that---- they do need to warm before breakfast- I feed mine about 2 hrs after lights on-- offer him insects in the morning too - can you get dubias?
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Re: New Bearded Dragon, Some New Owner Stress

Postby erodred » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:24 am

I dont think they are allowed in Canada. I remember looking for them when I had a leopard gecko. Considered an invasive species.

I will try disabling those crickets for his morning salad tomorrow. As well as offering them dusted at night.

His mother and I argue over trying to offer them off tongs or by hand. What do you think about that? She thinks me offering it will stress him out.

I also dropped a few water droplets on his head and he barely licked it so I guess he feels hydrated, possibly from the worms? It does not look like he touched the kale that I put in with the butterworms. He just got the worms.

As to the food dish, should I always try and offer insects in that dish? I am guessing he will associate the dish with food and check it more often?

Beardies seem to have a bit more personality than my leopard gecko. The leopard gecko I can throw the crickets in and I know he will spend the night hunting them while I slept. Was never picky at all and adjusted to his home easier. Plus heating requirements mattered more than lighting.

I am enjoying Toothless's presence in my office while I work or do my hobbies. Just hoping he will bond with me and have a strong appetite soon.
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Re: New Bearded Dragon, Some New Owner Stress

Postby KarrieRee » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:39 am

It is good to feed by hand and tongs will work but I would go w/ the hand too - its going to bond and build trust w/ you --- and yes no dubias in CA unfortunately -- get some BSFL or nutri grubs calci worms or phoenix worms all the same thing -- they will work better for salad toppers and harder to get - order large dont dust them --- try this website www. https://www.thewormlady.ca/
As long as he keeps eating his appetite will increase
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Re: New Bearded Dragon, Some New Owner Stress

Postby erodred » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:44 am

Thanks! I will take a look at ordering the phoenix worms. Any care tips for the worms? Crickets seem to die pretty fast but its only a 10 minute drive from my source so I am not too bothered. I have 30 small that is probably down to 20 but since he is not eating they are just happily munching on the fluker diet.
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