smergy":1pt6h721 said:
well thanks em, I did take him off the sand yesterday when i came home, gave him like 3 more crickets and put craft paper down for him and it was ok, but on a sad note this morning i went to feed him the normal 5 in the AM i have been doing since i got him sunday but all he did was sleep on his stick, no real movement at all
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my wife is going to some vet this afternoon to see if hes ok but I dont know yet, should I have not put the paper down? or was it the other 3 crickets i gave him yesterday, of course could it have been we bought okra, and some other greens and a kiwi and put all that in his cage but he didnt eat them, that is the only things i have changed. on a side note em we measured him last night and from tip to tale he measureed about 6 inches so not sure if that helps on the age thing but thats all we know, and his name is Draco, but i hope i didnt do anything to make him sick from yesterday.
oh not at all, you did the right thing putting the paper towels down. and even a change like that can cause some stress on them, so if he is mopy or seems blah, that can really be normal, when changes happen. sometimes ANY change even the teeniest change stresss som beardies out, and others not so much.
but this is all new for him, he just came home really, so keep that in mind ... its like trying to get used to a new house and neighbors and sounds when you move, ya know, its a little bit of a shocker, and it takes some time to get adjusted.
it probably took BlueBelle about a few weeks to get settled in when i brought her home as a baby. you always gotta remember, he is only been there a few days, so he will probably display some weird signs, hiding, being skittish, all that beardie stuff that worries us to pieces. i think they do it on purpose
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they know we will jump to their needs teehee.
but YES a vet visit is ALWAYS a great idea, i think every animal should be seem by a vet for an overall exam. no matter what kind or breed or species.
i hope that you have a good herp vet/exotic vet near you, that is who you want to take your little dude too. they are expirienced in reptiles, and if you get a good one, which i had to shop around for a good one, you will be SO happy and feel better about your babies health in general.
but even going to the vet, especially for a new baby that is just in the home for 3 or 4 days, will be stressfull too. they are fast, skittish, and jumpers too!! so keep an eye out for that big time
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the adults, much easier to crowd control, lol.
i wouldnt be freaking out, dont you worry its ok!!! you didnt do anything to make him sick. i cant see anything you have done wrong ... honestly it could be ANYTHING from the wrong lights, wrong temps, new home, new people, possible some parasites, i mean if he is sick then the vet will know, its endless really.
your litte guy is probably just getting used to his new life.
oh side note ... dont leave crickets in the tank if you are feeding in the tank. they can and will bite your beardie, and having them in there when they are not eating them can be a big stressor.
once you get the right lighting, temps, temp gradient (hot side/cool side) and the right healthy feeders, he will get more and more amd more used to not only his new surroundings but to you as well.
i raisd BlueBelle from a baby, so i speak from expirience, it was task to raise a baby BUT SO WORTH IT!!!!! to watch them grow and grow AND GROWWWWW, is awesome.
kiwi is a little acidic, but if he LIKES it, then sure, as a once in a while thing while he is baby then by all means. i wish BlueBelle like SOME kind of fruit. bahhhhhh.
fruit is not really an essential part of their diet. some beardies love fruit! some dont. (aka BlueBelle)
so you have like three main focal points right now:
linear reptiSun or Arcadia bulb (100% essential for EVERYTHING)
temp gun or digital thermometer with a probe to measure exact temps (its SO important and effect behavior BIG TIME! you wont know if he is overheating or underheated until you get wither a temp gun or a digital therm with a probe)
GOOD PROTEIN (extra small roaches, small butterworms, phoenix worms, they so also seel the extra small/small super worms on the Mulberry Farms website, supers are fatty, however i do feed them to Blue, i mean, as long as they are getting a leaner staple and supers not constantly. that is topic up for debate, some people will agree with and some wont, in retro-spect, i wish i wouldnt have raised Blue on pretty much supers before i switched to roaches. but they are really an easy feeder so the convience of supers is beyond awesome.
you dont want ANYTHING big at this point, when you order, order extra small or small for your baby
i just a shipment of small nymph roaches, and they are so tiny! and they werent even the smallest i available! these were the second size up. i got them for my rescue beardie Lexi, and they are perfect for her. Butterworms are SOOOOOOOOO easy to keep and so are PHOENIX worms. and GREAT feeders. Supers are way easy to keep too. WAY easy.
Blue eats the bigger roaches (LOL!!! yall are cracking me up, i will have to tell you my "first ever shipment of roaches" horror story. lol.
if someoen had a camera in my house they would have made SOOOOOO much money off that video. it was hilarious in hind sight. mwahahahahahahaha.
BUT, im so used to them now, that even the big ones i just have to think of as large pill bugs or rolly polly's. i NEVER thought i would be able to handle dubia, but its like whatever now, grab a few and feed. once you think of them as NOT the roaches you think of when you think "dirty house raoches" ... you start to think, oh, this isnt that bad.
i think with any feeder or bug that is alive is gonna give most humans heebie jeebies, its totally natural!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mommisgurl":1pt6h721 said:
Couldn't of said it better myself Em
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Everything you covered was to the t.!
I even have a quick q..how long did it take for your colony to be strong enough to eat out of.? I just got one last week,and I've seen one female have an egg sack..but I'm a tad bit scared to move the egg crates..the big males and females scare the crap outta me :roll: :lol:
And one more..how do you get the right sized ones outta the bin.?? I've always just thought I could treat them like I would crickets and just lift up the egg crates and shake them into my feeding container..but like I said..the huge males and females scare me half to death.!
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haha
yo be honest with ya, i SUCK at colonies. i just mix males and females together, and suddenly i have babies. i guess im not your "colony set-up" role model ha!!! nature somehow just takes it course. i feed them collards, mustard greens, fruit, potatoes. and they just, breed and flourish. the more time i used to put into starting a tip top colony, they less succesful i was!!! and honestly, i just reach down and grab some ... they ar really great about sticking strong to the egg crates, shaking them off, at least for me, isnt easy. you can always use long tongs, they works great, but i have gotten to the point now where i just pick them up and put them in a container to carry upstairs to Blue. they dont bite (supers BITE!!!) and they are so harmless.
its just the whole IDEA of it that is
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and ewwwwwww and ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh run away!!! teeheheheheeeee.
just DIVE ON IN and take charge! they are non-biting pill bug. say that over and over and over again.
and you CAN DO IT!!!!! and remember, you 1000000 times bigger than them, push through the fear and CONQUER THE ROACH WORLD!!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Ashpd2006":1pt6h721 said:
I just bought my dubia colony and I am absolutely petrified of the adults!!! I have no clue how I am going to go in to get babies once they are producing...gah!!! Lol
you gotta get in that frame of mind that they are totally harmless and you rule them, not the other way around. i know its freaky at first but you can do it!!!! i know you can!!!!! i think we all go through this with roaches. these days, id rather pick up a large roach than a large super, ive been but those things a few times. i still pick them up but im like ... dont you dare dude!!! and cricktes too! little jumping biters. blah .... but again, take charge!!! be brave!
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i have FAITH IN YALL!!!
LOL ... oh the LOVELY WORLD OF LIVE FEEDERS!!!!
butters and phoenix are the least heebie jeebie and easiest keepers, but you cant get a colony going that i am aware of?
oh! a plus on butters, you can refriderate them, HELLO convient!!! and they are actually this really pretty bright orange yellow and red colour too. SO easy. pretty much everything is easy keeping to me except - silkworms (the mainteance), hornworms (the POOP and maintance) and crickets (jumpy smelly ickies).
eveyone is so different on what they can and cant handle! lol.
your baby shold be just fine ... DRACO!
do you have pics???
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