Loooooma
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Hello, I have been to vet 4 times since December and have had little success so I am hoping that maybe one of you has some insight on my problem. I purchased Lady Lyle from Petco in March of 2014. She was approximately 3 months old. She was perfectly healthy and I had no issues. In December 2014 after we had moved to a new home, I was cleaning out Lyle's tank when she started to make a motion similar to throwing up and it sounded like she was coughing. Her beard puffed out and darkened a bit, but was quickly over it and looked up at me like nothing happened. I took her to the vet immediately because, to be honest, this is my first reptile and from all of the research I had done I was certain she had caught an upper respiratory infection. She went to the vet, who performed a physical examination and a fecal examination. She weighed 454 grams and was 17 inches in length. The fecal exam came back negative for parasites. Based on the physical, the vet said that she was a model of health and one of the most well cared for he had seen. He told me that the sound and motion of coughing/hacking she made was most likely a warning sign to me because something I had done had upset her. I took her home happy and I never heard her make the coughing sound.
In March, I noticed her stools seemed slightly looser than normal and she seemed to be eating less greens, and began to refuse to eat crickets. She would eat her superworms, but only 1-2 per day. Her urates were still white, so I figured she may have drank a bit too much water (she has ALWAYS drank out of her water dish at least once a week). By March 23, she would pass two stools a day, one extremely watery, the other pretty normal looking except for a pool of water around it. She refused to eat her greens/pellets (Natural Geographic Adult Bearded Dragon Food) and would only eat one superworm. I took her into the vet for another physical and fecal exam. She went from 454 grams in December to 397 grams. The fecal exam came back negative again. The vet thought that she may have had a rough time through brumation and he gave her fluids/nutrients to make up for what she may have lost because of her diarrhea like symptoms. The following weeks she seemed to improve, her stools started to become more solid, except she still seemed to have a watery pool around it. She was still extremely active and after calling the vet, she seemed on the mend until last weekend (4-18-15). On Saturday I went in to give her an offering of dinner and she had a stool with a red pool of blood around it. It was extremely mucousy. I went to clean the substrate and she started to make the coughing sound again. My vets office was closed until Monday and I did not have the money for the ER vet so I had to wait. On Sunday, it was the same movement with the blood. On Monday (4-20-15) I took her to the vet and they did another fecal exam. No parasites again. No signs of impaction. Still active, but not eating. He gave her an injection of antibiotics and more nutrients. He told me that despite the weight loss, she still looks healthy. She still has healthy behavior other than the anorexia. I had to take a pictures of Lyle's movements every day until today (Friday 4-24-15). She went back to the vet today for a second does of antibiotics. She had lost another 3 grams. Today she did seem even more active however, and finally seemed at least interested in her food, even though she did not eat.
The vet has told me that there was a virus and a parasite that if the antibiotics don't cure her, she may have. He said that the tests to see if she may have them are expensive and that there was no treatment. Has anyone experienced anything similar? Please, any input would be greatly appreciated because I am starting to run low on expenses to care for my Lady Lyle and I do not want to lose her if there may be something we are overlooking.
Here is more background info:
Since she reached 16 inches (October) in length she has been on a diet of 5-10 crickets, 3-5 superworms, and two 4x 1 inch bowls worth of salad (usually a mix of basil, escarole, mustard green, and dandelion green). She may have ate a little more or less depending on the day but these are the averages.
Daytime Temp: Basking- 99-101 F Cool 85 F - ReptiSun 150 UVB bulb 26 watt
Nightime Temp: Basking- 85-87 F Cool 75F
36"Lx 18"Wx 16"H glass terrarium
Basking rock, Hammock, wall climb, vine, medium size shallow soaking dish, small shallow food dish
Terrarium cleaned once weekly with 50/50 apple cider vinegar/ water mix. Rocks baked at 375 F and hammocks and decor soaked in 50/50 apple cider vinegar/ water mix.
Soaking dish cleaned daily
Newspaper substrate (was originally on a reptile carpet substrate until diarrhea issues and switched to newspaper on recommendation of the vet to be able to more accurately see her movements.)
In March, I noticed her stools seemed slightly looser than normal and she seemed to be eating less greens, and began to refuse to eat crickets. She would eat her superworms, but only 1-2 per day. Her urates were still white, so I figured she may have drank a bit too much water (she has ALWAYS drank out of her water dish at least once a week). By March 23, she would pass two stools a day, one extremely watery, the other pretty normal looking except for a pool of water around it. She refused to eat her greens/pellets (Natural Geographic Adult Bearded Dragon Food) and would only eat one superworm. I took her into the vet for another physical and fecal exam. She went from 454 grams in December to 397 grams. The fecal exam came back negative again. The vet thought that she may have had a rough time through brumation and he gave her fluids/nutrients to make up for what she may have lost because of her diarrhea like symptoms. The following weeks she seemed to improve, her stools started to become more solid, except she still seemed to have a watery pool around it. She was still extremely active and after calling the vet, she seemed on the mend until last weekend (4-18-15). On Saturday I went in to give her an offering of dinner and she had a stool with a red pool of blood around it. It was extremely mucousy. I went to clean the substrate and she started to make the coughing sound again. My vets office was closed until Monday and I did not have the money for the ER vet so I had to wait. On Sunday, it was the same movement with the blood. On Monday (4-20-15) I took her to the vet and they did another fecal exam. No parasites again. No signs of impaction. Still active, but not eating. He gave her an injection of antibiotics and more nutrients. He told me that despite the weight loss, she still looks healthy. She still has healthy behavior other than the anorexia. I had to take a pictures of Lyle's movements every day until today (Friday 4-24-15). She went back to the vet today for a second does of antibiotics. She had lost another 3 grams. Today she did seem even more active however, and finally seemed at least interested in her food, even though she did not eat.
The vet has told me that there was a virus and a parasite that if the antibiotics don't cure her, she may have. He said that the tests to see if she may have them are expensive and that there was no treatment. Has anyone experienced anything similar? Please, any input would be greatly appreciated because I am starting to run low on expenses to care for my Lady Lyle and I do not want to lose her if there may be something we are overlooking.
Here is more background info:
Since she reached 16 inches (October) in length she has been on a diet of 5-10 crickets, 3-5 superworms, and two 4x 1 inch bowls worth of salad (usually a mix of basil, escarole, mustard green, and dandelion green). She may have ate a little more or less depending on the day but these are the averages.
Daytime Temp: Basking- 99-101 F Cool 85 F - ReptiSun 150 UVB bulb 26 watt
Nightime Temp: Basking- 85-87 F Cool 75F
36"Lx 18"Wx 16"H glass terrarium
Basking rock, Hammock, wall climb, vine, medium size shallow soaking dish, small shallow food dish
Terrarium cleaned once weekly with 50/50 apple cider vinegar/ water mix. Rocks baked at 375 F and hammocks and decor soaked in 50/50 apple cider vinegar/ water mix.
Soaking dish cleaned daily
Newspaper substrate (was originally on a reptile carpet substrate until diarrhea issues and switched to newspaper on recommendation of the vet to be able to more accurately see her movements.)
She still is running around though, and she ate two syringes full of her baby food
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