When to get imaging for first time egg layer?

DizzyLizzyNC

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My beardie is 7-9 years old (adopted 6 years ago) and stopped eating, was having daily runny stools, and was acting highly agitated for 4 days. (Looking back the cause should have been obvious) I got an appointment with the vet 4 days out and the day before the appointment she was back to her normal self. I took her to the vet anyway for bloodwork/parasite check. Her phosphorus levels were high (negative for parasites) and the vet said it could be kidney failure or it could just be dehydration from the loose stools. Before placing her on kidney support therapy, the vet recommended daily baths, probiotics, and to come back in a month for more bloodwork.

The next day in the bath she laid an egg.

I called the vet and they recommended bringing her in for imaging. Is this over kill? I’m hesitant since the vet didn’t recognize that the lack of appetite and increased agitation are (from my understanding) classic signs of a beardie about to lay eggs.

She has been pooping out one egg a day for 4 days in the bath. All the eggs look plump and are a pearly slightly yellowish-white color. She’s eating well (I increased calcium) and acting normal. After the first egg, I provided her with a large tub with 7” of coconut fiber/play sand mix with a hide. However, when I put her in there she just promptly climbs back into her enclosure. I’ve also taken her outside into my raised flower garden to see if she was interested in digging in there. She enjoyed the sun but, showed no sign of digging.

I can’t find concrete information on how unusual it is for a bearded dragon to lay eggs one at a time vs all at once in a clutch. Especially, for a first clutch, While I don’t begrudge spending money on imaging, I’ve had issues with this same vet practice overprescribing treatments imo (and have heard similar experiences from others). Maybe being exceedingly cautious is a better way to phrase it. I also don’t want to stress her out if it’s not needed. After the last vet visit she promptly crammed herself deep in her cave and didn’t come out until the next day.

If she is eating, behaving normally, and continues to pass healthy looking eggs, tis it okay to give her another week to see if she uses the lay box to lay another 16 or so eggs?

Other than slightly elevated phosphorus, vet reported she was a healthy weight and reviewed my husbandry for adequate diet, supplements, UVB, and heat.
 

Wintersedits

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Beardie name(s)
Tex
What type of vet are they? It's likely they don't have experience with exotic animals or reptiles if they didn't notice it...
Did they X-ray her? They probably shouldve if they didn't and wouldve seen the eggs

I can't say anything about the eggs however... I have a male beardie and I definitely don't breed him
 

Sue E.

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Beardie name(s)
Kai
My beardie is 7-9 years old (adopted 6 years ago) and stopped eating, was having daily runny stools, and was acting highly agitated for 4 days. (Looking back the cause should have been obvious) I got an appointment with the vet 4 days out and the day before the appointment she was back to her normal self. I took her to the vet anyway for bloodwork/parasite check. Her phosphorus levels were high (negative for parasites) and the vet said it could be kidney failure or it could just be dehydration from the loose stools. Before placing her on kidney support therapy, the vet recommended daily baths, probiotics, and to come back in a month for more bloodwork.

The next day in the bath she laid an egg.

I called the vet and they recommended bringing her in for imaging. Is this over kill? I’m hesitant since the vet didn’t recognize that the lack of appetite and increased agitation are (from my understanding) classic signs of a beardie about to lay eggs.

She has been pooping out one egg a day for 4 days in the bath. All the eggs look plump and are a pearly slightly yellowish-white color. She’s eating well (I increased calcium) and acting normal. After the first egg, I provided her with a large tub with 7” of coconut fiber/play sand mix with a hide. However, when I put her in there she just promptly climbs back into her enclosure. I’ve also taken her outside into my raised flower garden to see if she was interested in digging in there. She enjoyed the sun but, showed no sign of digging.

I can’t find concrete information on how unusual it is for a bearded dragon to lay eggs one at a time vs all at once in a clutch. Especially, for a first clutch, While I don’t begrudge spending money on imaging, I’ve had issues with this same vet practice overprescribing treatments imo (and have heard similar experiences from others). Maybe being exceedingly cautious is a better way to phrase it. I also don’t want to stress her out if it’s not needed. After the last vet visit she promptly crammed herself deep in her cave and didn’t come out until the next day.

If she is eating, behaving normally, and continues to pass healthy looking eggs, tis it okay to give her another week to see if she uses the lay box to lay another 16 or so eggs?

Other than slightly elevated phosphorus, vet reported she was a healthy weight and reviewed my husbandry for adequate diet, supplements, UVB, and heat.
Can you mix 50/50 play sand with organic topsoil instead and moisten it to cookie dough or sand castle consistency so she can dig into it/bury herself and eggs better? The sand and cocofiber mix really wont hold up to tunnelling into. That may help.
 

AHBD

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I wouldn't bother imaging, she is popping out her eggs so there's no real problem although ideally they are laid in one clutch. Can you make up a box that fits in her enclosure ? Like this one that my girls used for years. It's about 22" long X 10 wide X 7 high. Mix of damp soil + sand or just sand about 3/4 full with a hole for entering. Oh, and I think the bathe regimen is overkill, maybe every 3-4 days if she drinks.
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DizzyLizzyNC

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Thanks for the tips. I have a spare container and will try to move one into her enclosure with a soil/sand combo. She hasn’t deposited any more eggs since #4 but she’s been eating and acting normally
What type of vet are they? It's likely they don't have experience with exotic animals or reptiles if they didn't notice it...
Did they X-ray her? They probably shouldve if they didn't and wouldve seen the eggs

I can't say anything about the eggs however... I have a male beardie and I definitely don't breed him
They are an exotic animal vet, but I think they work with more birds and rabbits than reptiles. We don’t have a lot of options in our area.
 

Wintersedits

Hatchling Member
Beardie name(s)
Tex
Thanks for the tips. I have a spare container and will try to move one into her enclosure with a soil/sand combo. She hasn’t deposited any more eggs since #4 but she’s been eating and acting normally

They are an exotic animal vet, but I think they work with more birds and rabbits than reptiles. We don’t have a lot of options in our area.
Same here- nampa' doesn't have any exotic vets I believe. But it would be a reason they didn't think of anything about the agitation and eating if they don't treat reptiles as much.
 

Drache613

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Hello,

It is hard to find a vet who specializes in exotics or reptile care.
Since she isn't acting stressed or lethargic with a black beard, just try to get a laybox made up for her in the case she wants to dig a burrow & lay some eggs.
Is she eating her normal amount right now?

Tracie
 

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