Red monsters?

[Sue E.]

So I have seen them and think they are beautiful, but Ive heard that this morph can be associated with health and neurological issues..is that true? Anyone know or have one? @xp29

 

[KarrieRee]

Beautiful boy ! I'm sorry to hear that he has all these health problems carry, I wasn't aware. Is he on anything for his liver ?

No not now - it's been cleared up when I found out about his eyes - like 3 years ago- I tried feeding salads on a salad plate and he wouldn't eat thus the force feeding went into effect -

 

[Sue E.]

Oh wow...he is stunning!

 

[AHBD]

No not now - it's been cleared up when I found out about his eyes - like 3 years ago- I tried feeding salads on a salad plate and he wouldn't eat thus the force feeding went into effect -

That's good ! Thankfully it wasn't chronic or severe.

 

[Drache613]

Hello,

Honestly, I really wish that they wouldn't continue to inbreed. It makes a
big difference in the overall health & hardiness of them. Too many of the breeders focus on just color but not caring about the health of them in the long run.

Tracie

 

[xp29]

Hello,

Honestly, I really wish that they wouldn't continue to inbreed. It makes a
big difference in the overall health & hardiness of them. Too many of the breeders focus on just color but not caring about the health of them in the long run.

Tracie

Also the population we have is all we will have. If we weaken it for the sake of a prettier/more profitable animals soon they will all be to sickly to keep. We literally will destroy the hobby we love.

 

[Claudiusx]

Also the population we have is all we will have. If we weaken it for the sake of a prettier/more profitable animals soon they will all be to sickly to keep. We literally will destroy the hobby we love.

That's why some are starting to breed the barbata line into the mix. At least, that is their theory.

It's getting more common now for some of the bigger breeders to be offering barbata hybrid lineage in their babies they are selling.

-Brandon

 

[Sue E.]

That's why some are starting to breed the barbata line into the mix. At least, that is their theory.

It's getting more common now for some of the bigger breeders to be offering barbata hybrid lineage in their babies they are selling.

-Brandon

Does the barbata have any different care requirements than the vitticeps? Just curious.

 

[xp29]

Does the barbata have any different care requirements than the vitticeps? Just curious.

If so it would be very minimal I think, they both come from the same area. Don't quote me but I think their ranges overlap.

 

[xp29]

That's why some are starting to breed the barbata line into the mix. At least, that is their theory.

It's getting more common now for some of the bigger breeders to be offering barbata hybrid lineage in their babies they are selling.

-Brandon

I understand the reasoning and don't really disagree but pagona vitticeps are they ones I fell in love with and it saddens me that there is a need to do it at all.
I wish Australia would let the hobby take a couple hundred adults for 1 breeding cycle and return them in time to brumate for the next cycle. If we did that every 10 years or so we could introduce fresh gentics into the captive breed population.