Red monsters?

[Sue E.]

So I have seen them and think they are beautiful, but Ive heard that this morph can be associated with health and neurological issues..is that true? Anyone know or have one? @xp29

 

[xp29]

So I have seen them and think they are beautiful, but Ive heard that this morph can be associated with health and neurological issues..is that true? Anyone know or have one? @xp29

The red monsters were extremely line bread to bring them into existence. Any time that done there are going to be problems. That being said people have started out breeding them into other lineages and they are supposedly getting better. I love the way they look, but personally it would still be a while before I would consider bringing one home. Or it would have to come from a long time established breeder that could provide me with the lineages of his dragons.

 

[Sue E.]

The red monsters were extremely line bread to bring them into existence. Any time that done there are going to be problems. That being said people have started out breeding them into other lineages and they are supposedly getting better. I love the way they look, but personally it would still be a while before I would consider bringing one home. Or it would have to come from a long time established breeder that could provide me with the lineages of his dragons.

Thanks. An exotic reptile keeper in our area has 2...brother and sister, but they are not extremely red...kind of red and black, so maybe they are mixed with another morph. I dont know much about those two.

 

[xp29]

Thanks. An exotic reptile keeper in our area has 2...brother and sister, but they are not extremely red...kind of red and black, so maybe they are mixed with another morph. I dont know much about those two.

I'd inquire before I got them just in case.

 

[Sue E.]

I'd inquire before I got them just in case.

Oh, Kai is all the dragon I can handle right now! I was just curious. I dont think I could afford another setup...but in the future who knows? Id prob just get another standard or maybe a citrus like yours (isnt that what Lucy is? A citrus?)

 

[xp29]

Oh, Kai is all the dragon I can handle right now! I was just curious. I dont think I could afford another setup...but in the future who knows? Id prob just get another standard or maybe a citrus like yours (isnt that what Lucy is? A citrus?)

She and Zsa Zsa are both citrus Lucy is also hypo, leatherback and Dunner. Hypo and translucent both make thier color brighter. Zsa Zsa is hypo and translucent.

 

[KarrieRee]

I have a red translucent/ wiblet - he is now eye site impaired - one eye has a cataract the other the cornea is not round and oval - I have no idea how that came about hes always had good lighting and was fine up until about 2 years or so - he also had a liver infection at one point - he does not eat salads on his own and am feeding Oxbow critical care both herbivore / carnivore - I can get him to eat super worms and dubias but it is a struggle for him to catch them - I can get him at times to take the supers / roaches off the tongs - its a patience thing - you can look at him and tell he is not well - I dont know if that was from the breeding of the two different dragons or what - the vet and I are stumped as to what caused the eyes to do what they did -

 

[xp29]

I have a red translucent/ wiblet - he is now eye site impaired - one eye has a cataract the other the cornea is not round and oval - I have no idea how that came about hes always had good lighting and was fine up until about 2 years or so - he also had a liver infection at one point - he does not eat salads on his own and am feeding Oxbow critical care both herbivore / carnivore - I can get him to eat super worms and dubias but it is a struggle for him to catch them - I can get him at times to take the supers / roaches off the tongs - its a patience thing - you can look at him and tell he is not well - I dont know if that was from the breeding of the two different dragons or what - the vet and I are stumped as to what caused the eyes to do what they did -

I think the translucent gene can be a culprit of some eye issues. As far as I know it's the worst trait to breed visual to visual.

 

[KarrieRee]

I think the translucent gene can be a culprit of some eye issues. As far as I know it's the worst trait to breed visual to visual.

That is sad -- I saw his mother and father and his father was beautiful-

 

[xp29]

That is sad -- I saw his mother and father and his father was beautiful-

Translucent is a beautiful morph. It just needs to be bread ethically

 

[Sue E.]

@KarrieRee Id love to see a pic of your dragon! Those reds are beautiful indeed!

 

[AHBD]

Some of the morphs had problems,[ not so much having to do with color except severely inbred for extreme color which may be the case with the monsters ] were unhealthy to start with and their beginnings were fraught with trouble. Transluscents and Witblits were 2 that were heavily scrutinized for problems.

 

[KarrieRee]

@KarrieRee Id love to see a pic of your dragon! Those reds are beautiful indeed!

 

[KarrieRee]

He doesn't look like this now-- he has lost his coloring - losing his eye sight and liver infection seemed to take a toll on his coloring etc-- he also lost weight and has thinned out

 

[AHBD]

Beautiful boy ! I'm sorry to hear that he has all these health problems Karrie, I wasn't aware. Is he on anything for his liver ?