My beardie has been posioned?

Enowicki11

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Loki
He is still fighting me hard to get the charcoal and water into his mouth. He won't eat, but i guess that's a good sign that he is still strong and a fighter. Doing what i can to fill his belly with that solution.
 

xp29

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Beardie name(s)
Zen , Ruby & Snicker Doodle
If you are using a syringe or eye dropper be careful not to aspirate him. You might could mix it in a little baby food and use a syringe to drop it on his snout. You can pull down his lip and drop a tiny bit outside his gums to get him started lapping at it.
 

Lobretto

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Verstappen and Checo
The only issue with charcoal is it for ingestion of poison. It needs to make contact with the toxin to absorb it. Using charcoal orally on a topical poisoning is futile. Charcoal can not help remove toxins from the blood or any other part of the body short of the gi track.
 

xp29

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Beardie name(s)
Zen , Ruby & Snicker Doodle
I think the beardie licked the ointment off its tail. I didn't realize there was 2 threads, in the other there are pics. It looks like normal shed not tail rot. But if the beardie did injest it the charcoal might help.
 

Enowicki11

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Loki
No, its topical. you are correct. Is there anything I can do? Or just wait and hope? Thanks for the info.
 

xp29

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Beardie name(s)
Zen , Ruby & Snicker Doodle
I think i missed something, if he didn't lick it off, just wash it off and he will be fine. Ok i went back and reread the original post. I think i did miss read it the first time. Just putting on his tail shouldn't hurt him. I thought he had licked it off.
 

Lobretto

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Beardie name(s)
Verstappen and Checo
It really comes down to the pain relief ingredient and concentration and how much he absorbed.
 

Enowicki11

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Beardie name(s)
Loki
It really comes down to the pain relief ingredient and concentration and how much he absorbed.
pramoxine HCL 10mg per gram. I used a tiny amount a couple times. He’s very lethargic, won’t eat, deep black beard.
Resting comfortably right now.
 

Drache613

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Hello,

Poor guy, it does sound like he has had a reaction to it. How much activated charcoal are you
giving?
I will have to dig out an actual dosing but for now, give just a small pinch of powder mixed with
water & give 1-2 times daily. You can also mix up into a paste or slurry some cilantro, parsley,
mint & oregano to help detoxify his system.
I hope he feels better soon. Be sure to keep him a little warmer overnight to boost his system.
Usually around 75-80F is good.

Tracie
 

Enowicki11

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Beardie name(s)
Loki
He is much worse today. Pooping and puking, opening his mouth and shaking his head back and fourth with a very black beard.
I have a vet appointment at 3:45 but he’s not looking good at all.

Drache613

 
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AHBD

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Oh no , poor guy ! How much of the charcoal did you get in him, please try to be specific. That itself can cause vomiting, even in humans a health professional gives a very small amount at a time to see if there will be any bad reaction. I think your dragon most likely is reacting to the charcoal. Still, if there WAS poisoning from licking the ointment off the tail [ which seems unlikely unless you saw it happen] then the charcoal might be flushing it out but having too much is also a problem.
 

Enowicki11

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Beardie name(s)
Loki
He did not lick the ointment, it was going on him topically. I was trying to use the recommended doses giving to me on this site for the charcoal. I started with 360 mg diluted in 12oz of water and I was giving him tiny 1ml squeezes into his gums.
 

AHBD

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It's most likely the charcoal that is somehow making him sick. If you look it up, vomiting and diarrhea can be a side effect in humans so it would also be with animals. Beardies do shake their head from side too side when they vomit so I know that's hard to see. I'm really sorry this happened, hopefully he'll get through it !
 

Enowicki11

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Beardie name(s)
Loki
It's most likely the charcoal that is somehow making him sick. If you look it up, vomiting and diarrhea can be a side effect in humans so it would also be with animals. Beardies do shake their head from side too side when they vomit so I know that's hard to see. I'm really sorry this happened, hopefully he'll get through it
What your missing is if there is anything I can do? I truly appreciate the message but can I do anything? Seems like everything I try to do makes him worse.
 

AHBD

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For now it's just a wait and see unless you could get him in to a reptile vet right away but your appt. is for later in the day. Has he stopped vomiting , will he accept a tiny bit of plain water ? Lets hope he can hang on until the vet visit and when you go, tell him everything that you've tried and everything that has happened.
 

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