My Bearded dragon might be VERY sick.

[Beardie keeper]

Okay, so to start from the beginning. I got her 5 years ago (for free) because she had some illnesses that the previous place/owner couldn't cure. Fast-forward to now she hasn't been eating for like 2-3 months, maybe even more and I've just been concerned and trying to get her to eat drink ect. Anyways she also has been very pale and her skin is very tough and she has wrinkles everywhere. She also doesn't move around a lot and now I think that it is getting worse because now she is stationary and doesn't move like at all. and since its been getting worse she doesn't even open her eyes anymore and she sleeps with her mouth open, which seeing this the first time I was just extremely scared. Also I forgot to mention but she might be blind/deaf and her legs don't really work like they used to. But anyway whoever can help please do! (Photos are given)

 

[xp29]

Are you sure she isn't brumating?

 

[AHBD]

Okay, so to start from the beginning. I got her 5 years ago (for free) because she had some illnesses that the previous place/owner couldn't cure. Fast-forward to now she hasn't been eating for like 2-3 months, maybe even more and I've just been concerned and trying to get her to eat drink ect. Anyways she also has been very pale and her skin is very tough and she has wrinkles everywhere. She also doesn't move around a lot and now I think that it is getting worse because now she is stationary and doesn't move like at all. and since its been getting worse she doesn't even open her eyes anymore and she sleeps with her mouth open, which seeing this the first time I was just extremely scared. Also I forgot to mention but she might be blind/deaf and her legs don't really work like they used to. But anyway whoever can help please do! (Photos are given) View attachment 100522 View attachment 100523

There is definitely something serious going on when they go pale, immobile and mouth open. Xrays can show if she has any enlarged organs or possibly a mass of some sort.
Other possibilities like extreme overheating but I'd think you'd know if the temps. spiked that badly. It's also possible that she developed eggs and has follicles + unlaid eggs. Sadly it's impossible to tell without a very good reptile vet .

 

[ChileanTaco]

Are you sure she isn't brumating?

Could brumation look like this? To me it looks definitively not, but I've only seen Taco brumating and saw a few photos of some, and this might be incomplete. Especially "sleeps with mouth open" reads to me very concerning, also how she lies there.

This

her skin is very tough and she has wrinkles everywhere.

and not moving around and not eating for 2-3 months alone would be normal for just brumation, but I think she's not looking okay.

 

[Beardie keeper]

Are you sure she isn't brumating?

No, im not completely sure if she is in brumation. I'm just worried about her.

 

[Beardie keeper]

Okay, so when I picked her up and layed her on a towel to examine her she felt like solid hard plastic like very very stiff and she also has discoloration all around her body and face and she woke up for like a second and instantly went back to sleep and this is reoccurring where she wakes up for like a second and just goes back to sleep. (Pictures are given)

 

[Beardie keeper]

Okay, so when I picked her up and layed her on a towel to examine her she felt like solid hard plastic like very very stiff and she also has discoloration all around her body and face and she woke up for like a second and instantly went back to sleep and this is reoccurring where she wakes up for like a second and just goes back to sleep. (Pictures are given)

she was also very cold, like to the touch

 

[Beardie keeper]

I gave her an bath and she drank the water and she is looking a lot better.

 

[Sue E.]

If she still has the setup you describe in your profile pic, she needs some things to get better asap. She needs a zoomed t5 10.0 long tube or an Arcadia t5 12% long tube uvb light, not the coil light in your dome. When you get the long tube light, shut off the coil. Second, you need a digital probe thermometer (about $7 at walmart or online),to take the temp right on the surface of her basking piece. Her basking piece should be directly under the uvb tube, about 12 to 15 inches away. Your basking (heat)light, which shoud be a bright white one should be able to get your temps to around 85 to 90 on the warm side, around 80 or so on the cool side, and at least 95 on her basking spot for her to digest her food. Most adult dragons like temps of 95 to 102 or so on their basking surface. 65 to 75 degrees is way too cold for her.These lights are the most important things she needs. Hope all that helps. You may still have to run her into the vet..she does not look good at all from the pics.

 

[Drache613]

Hello,

I do think you will still need to get her to the vet, for at least a blood test to determine what could be
going on, internally.
Are you able to take the temperatures in her tank?
As suggested, try to upgrade to a better UVB. The Reptisun or Arcadia either one, both have great
T5 tube bulbs.
I don't think it is brumation, but, it is odd that she seems to be sleeping, etc. At the moment, her eyes
didn't look sunken in.
Are you able to try & find a reptile vet?

Let us know how she is doing.
Tracie

 

[Drache613]

Hello,

Any updates for us, we are worried about her.

Tracie

 

[Beardie keeper]

Hello,

Any updates for us, we are worried about her.

Tracie

Okay, so I took Firdie to the vet (my Bearded dragon) and they tested her blood and did a couple of x-rays and couldn't find the underlying condition but instead they suggested to change out the lights (like you guys suggested) and they did a couple other tests but the results are still pending I will notify y'all when we get it back. (THIS WAS YESTERDAY BTW)

 

[Beardie keeper]

Okay, so I took Firdie to the vet (my Bearded dragon) and they tested her blood and did a couple of x-rays and couldn't find the underlying condition but instead they suggested to change out the lights (like you guys suggested) and they did a couple other tests but the results are still pending I will notify y'all when we get it back. (THIS WAS YESTERDAY BTW)

And also the minute I sent this the reptile vet called me and said that they might of found out what was going on and that she might have Fecal impaction and MBD and that she also has respitory issues. [Will post update in future]

 

[Sue E.]

The lights will help keep the mbd from progressing..unfortunately it cant be reversed, but as soon as she gets under the proper lights it will keep from getting worse. You can feed her some plain canned pumpkin (no other ingredients, 100% pumpkin, not the pie filling), about a tsp, to see if that will help her go. But the proper temps and proper lights also start digestion so it does come back to the lights. And use repticalcium on all her bugs and worms..a light dusting...put the bugs/worms in a plastic container with a pinch or two of calcium powder and shake them to coat them before feeding her. Hornworms help with hydration, moisten all her veggies with water (spray them), and you can use a plastic eyedropper to drip fluids very slowly and carefully on the tip of her nose to see if she will drink that way. Go slowly and dont force it..wait for her to swallow on her own. Hope that helps!

 

[Beardie keeper]

The lights will help keep the mbd from progressing..unfortunately it cant be reversed, but as soon as she gets under the proper lights it will keep from getting worse. You can feed her some plain canned pumpkin (no other ingredients, 100% pumpkin, not the pie filling), about a tsp, to see if that will help her go. But the proper temps and proper lights also start digestion so it does come back to the lights. And use repticalcium on all her bugs and worms..a light dusting...put the bugs/worms in a plastic container with a pinch or two of calcium powder and shake them to coat them before feeding her. Hornworms help with hydration, moisten all her veggies with water (spray them), and you can use a plastic eyedropper to drip fluids very slowly and carefully on the tip of her nose to see if she will drink that way. Go slowly and dont force it..wait for her to swallow on her own. Hope that helps!

Thank you so much!!!