Drache613":1wz35hwk said:Hello,
I am glad to hear you started her on black cherry already, maybe that will help out some.
It is possible it could be an upcoming shed, but with your description of her behavior it is
probably gout developing.
Can you review your tank setup with us, such as the type/brand of UVB, temperatures, the
supplementation & foods offered.
I would go ahead & proactively decrease the protein intake to minimum, around 20-25 insects
weekly. Try to get some greens slurries into her for more oral fluids, if possible.
Where are you located, the US or another country?
Allopurinol is a very routinely given medication which is safe for long term use in reptiles if
given in the proper dosage.
Let us know how she is doing.
Tracie
UVB Brand : ExoTerra 25wReptileUVB150Which UVB light are you using now?
4-5 days a week in the morning, whenever I can, for about an hour.How often do you take her outside for natural sun & when you do how long is she exposed to the natural sun?
I called the vet and asked. This is what he replied " There is no strength,you just need to feed her 0.5ml twice a day before meal for the 1st 3 days and 1ml twice on the 4th day onwards."The liquid calcium should be fine, but can you find out the strength of it?
Alright, can I know how often would you suggest that I soak her in it?I can get on board with the dextrose soaks but not the permanganate
I dont know.. her back legs seemed ok but i think the fronts got worse..?I am sorry her toes & fingers are still swollen. Have they stayed the same or do they seem to
be getting any worse?
Actually, her usual amount of dubias is around 16-20 a week. So should I aim for a lower amount or higher..?I would go ahead & proactively decrease the protein intake to minimum, around 20-25 insects
weekly.
CooperDragon":opi4kb36 said:That UVB light is OK But low power. It works best between 15-20 cm above the basking area. The output drops off quickly beyond 20 cm so it isn't the best option for large enclosures.
Drache613":15u1xp0j said:Hello,
How is your girl doing today?
Were you able to get some of the serrapeptase tablets crushed up for her today? It is a very
useful supplement for pain, joint pain & inflammation. Plus, she can use it long term, without
any side effects.
Has she gotten anymore swelling of the limbs or are they about the same?
I agree, that is a compact/coil light so it wont have a real good UVB spectrum & or reach. I
recommend continuing to take her outside daily for at least 1 hour, if not more when at all
possible.
You can stay with around 20 insects for the week right now, that will be perfectly fine. Keep
us posted on her. I hope she is feeling better soon.
Tracie
Im still not able to tell to be honest, but I think her swelling still looks about the same.Has she gotten anymore swelling of the limbs or are they about the same?
Sakai":1z5mzzo0 said:Drache613":1z5mzzo0 said:Hello,
How is your girl doing today?
Were you able to get some of the serrapeptase tablets crushed up for her today? It is a very
useful supplement for pain, joint pain & inflammation. Plus, she can use it long term, without
any side effects.
Has she gotten anymore swelling of the limbs or are they about the same?
I agree, that is a compact/coil light so it wont have a real good UVB spectrum & or reach. I
recommend continuing to take her outside daily for at least 1 hour, if not more when at all
possible.
You can stay with around 20 insects for the week right now, that will be perfectly fine. Keep
us posted on her. I hope she is feeling better soon.
Tracie
Hello Tracie, I had the serrapaptase crushed and added it to Daenys' veggie slurry yesterday and I did as you suggested and got superwroms as well. Im not sure but I noticed Daenys has been walking more today! She even showed interest in the superworms and ate 4 on her own!
Im still not able to tell to be honest, but I think her swelling still looks about the same.Has she gotten anymore swelling of the limbs or are they about the same?
I manage to find another vet and brought Daenys there this morning. I requested for both X-rays and blood test. I was only allow to take a pic of the x-ray though. I shall email them to you later.
The vet seemed to think Daenys has MBD & hypovitaminosis A,noting that her bone density isnt looking good due to lack of calcium.
As for the blood test, I read that I should ask for both Uric acid and CPK levels; however, the vet told me it's very difficult, or rather impossible to check for uric acid levels in bearded dragons. :/ He said he'll call me back 2 days later to let me know about the result.
About the calcium syrup and multivitamin prescribed by the previous vet, this vet told me I can continue to follow the previous instruction given( 0.5ml of each, twice for the 1st 3 days, and 1ml twice on the 4th day onwards) and feed them to Daenys everyday, even for the multivitamin. He said something like it's impossible to overdose on vitamin but he did advise against dusting calcium powder on insects now that she is taking the calcium syrup to prevent calcium overdose. He also said I can feed both calcium and vitamin at the same time, as long as the next intake is 6 hours later and it dosent matter if it's before or after meal. Should I feed her both everyday then?
I also told him about the serrapaptase as well but he wasnt so sure about giving them to Daenys. He hasnt heard about giving serrapaptase to reptiles before because if inflammation was the case, they would give ketoprofen or meloxicam.
So, if Daenys does indeed have mbd& hypovitaminosis A, do I still give her the tart cherry juice and serrapaptase? This is her poop todayHaving veggie slurry(butternut squash included), tart cherry juice ,calcium syrup and water, is it normal that her poop is watery or even bubbly at this point? And her urate still isnt entirely white, still having a tint of orange, what does this indicate, if not excess calcium?
Thank you!
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