There are sooooo many uninformed people out there ...GlueStick":1lv1rdb7 said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B75IrV9tqcw
This person needs a serious talking to. Was browsing waterfall builds and found this. His explanation for cohabitation is... amazing -_-
ziggy23":6sbze04e said:...
Now lets look at nonsocial animals. I'll use wild reptiles as an example. When it comes to families the parents are nothing but sperm and egg donors. The adults mate, then go their separate ways. The mothers lay their eggs and forget about them. The babies are independent from the day they hatch. As soon as they're able they go off to seek out their own little space in the world. If they were to wonder into their parents territory they're just as likely to be killed, maimed or eaten as any other intruder. Reptiles tend to lay very large clutches because most will not survive to sexual maturity. (social animals have a smaller number of babies because too many would put too much strain on the mother to care for them) Groups of babies without a protector is a more visible target for predators. Food is scare and competition fierce. If they were to stay together, then there would be less food to go around, making all eventually suffer. To bond with other animals, to put them first, to share limited resources would be to the determent of the health and could get them killed.
Reptiles are highly evolved creatures. They have been on this earth longer than humans and will probably still be here after we're gone because of their ability to adapt. Cold blooded animals are built to be efficient, more so than us. To even create the hormones required for bonding would be a waste of precious resources. Even if their brains were capable of making the chemicals needed for bonding the lack of a mother/child relationship would destroy that even in the most social creatures.
As you can see, socialization is a chemical/biological thing. Some animals have need of it, some do not. To expect a solitary animal to be social is no different than asking a dog to stop being a dog, a cat to do tricks on demand, or a tiger to be a house cat. You are asking them to do something they are not biologically capable and go against thousands or billions of years of instinct. We are the most evolved creatures on this planet and we can't escape our biology. It's unreasonable to expect it of the "lesser" beings if we can't do it ourselves.
GlueStick":2vdyoe9i said:And we can't forget to mention the platypus! =P
Caramell":3llm7ug4 said:GlueStick":3llm7ug4 said:And we can't forget to mention the platypus! =P
Platypus is an egg-laying mammal, or monotreme, it isn't a reptile at all. Just so you know...
claudiusx":fsmmc0p3 said:That is the problem with cohabitation.
There could be absolutely no signs of aggression, and then you come home after school/work to a missing hand.
I am not trying to scare you or anything but I believe the point of the first post was to make people aware that there doesn't have to be signs for something bad to happen.
-Brandon
claudiusx":1zc7zaqk said:I doubt the heat bulb would set the cardboard on fire, its very unlikely that the bulb will get the cardboard to its combustion temperature (which would be over 400 degrees I believe)
But... that doesn't give your dragons very much room to turn around. It seems they would be awfully cramped.
Why won't your parents get you a new tank?
If anything you can play the blame game and tell your dad he should have bought you a new tank if he was going to get you a new dragon lol.
If money is an issue, you can always look on craigslist, they usually have someone selling for cheap.
-Brandon
my1stBD":1ho8zrcq said:If getting another tank is an issue for right now i would seperate the tank in the centre.
Move the heat lamp to the centre so they each have a cool side on opposite ends.
Cheap quick temporary tank can be made out of a sterilite type bin (I knew a girl who used one for months till she could save up for a decent viv). With a clamp lamp for heat and youll just need another uvb for the one.
Untill you do take the second dragon outside for some sun every day. Or alternatively swop the current uvb between them (1/2 day each) and take both out for a while daily.
Just take them outsupervised. In a bin or on a leash cos theyre real fast and you dont want them to get lost
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