I gotta crestie today

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Starforce2

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I bought a crestie for 75 bucks today at the reptile show. Male, with tail, yellow flame I think super dalmation? I looked at so many I forget which I picked..they had a green one too that was imperfect because it's stripe wasn't complete (must be a gecko collector thing..it looked great to me) but I settled on the cheapest one, which was a cool yellow tan. Pix later! Oh boy do they feel wierd on your hand...
 

ThyDemise

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great lookin crested. hard to tell but based off that pic its not a super dal. sweet colors tho, i wouldve nabbed him up too.
 

Starforce2

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I looked at so many on that table I can't remember which one I picked. Later today I'll grab that container out of the trunk and look at the lable.
 

Starforce2

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well the crestie has burried itself in the substrate (sphagum moss) and I am thinking I might have put too much in. The only thing that sucks about this particular all screen terrarium is that they did not make any type of premade holes for anything, such as a waterfall. So I am debating weather to get the wtaerfall or order a pair of those ultrasonic automatic misters (one for the frog, one for the gecko) off the zoo med site and just place the hose up to the side of the cage rather than trying to run the powercord for the waterfall as that would require me to make a hole...
 

Starforce2

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well put in a bunch of small crickets yesterday night and dunno if he ate any. Woke uo and can't find him anywhere, so he must be under the moss again, despite it still being completely dark (this unusual?) and he didn't find the cup of waxies so maybe they're not moving enough, or maybe it's a bit too cool. I'll hafta hook up his red bulb and see what happens.
 

Kacymyree

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You're feeding him CGD everyday right? My cresteds wont eat live food at all and they need the CGD it has everything needed for growth and healthy living.
 

Starforce2

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I've not done the rapashay yet..But I believe it ate atleast 2 of the 4 crickets because one was dead and as much as I stired up the cage looking for my gecko, I doubt I could have missed more than one cricket. I think it got too cool for the waxies as they stopped moving. I've turned my heater back on till we get some warmer night temps again but this cage is always bone dry and I'm misting it several times a day. I think this screen cage was a bad idea.


With the reb observation light on..25 watts..he didn't come out at all last night despite my 3 attemts to expose him from the moss..he simply ran up the side and procceeded to dive back in. Guess Something is still wrong.
 

Kacymyree

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What are your temps? I keep mine between 72-77 year round. at night if the temps stay around 69-70 i dont add additional heat. I use a butter container with a hole cut in it as a "hide" i place the moss in there and they love it. Screen is a bad idea, what i did was i took a 20 gal and placed it on its side so its vertical. cheaper and gives them more height. the CGD really is a must. i would order it ASAP. he wont develop correctly without it. I've never heard of feeding them butters but i would watch it as they are VERY fatty. like i said, mine wont eat bugs. and i dont worry with them because there are more nutrients in the Repashy CGD then the bugs.
 

Starforce2

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he is out right now. I guess he's finally decided to stay. However, he is shedding. He's been nibbling or licking his toes today. I'm wondering if that's why the strange behavior..since they have scales over their eyes do they then act more like snakes when shedding..not eating..hiding..ect.? Given the allergy problem I'm having due to the dried moss I think I'm going to hafta go to a glass cage and another substrate. My pixie ingested small ammounts of his moss as well, though the larger peices he removed with his feet, so I'll be getting ecoearth anyways. Plus the waterbowl that came with the frog starter kit once sterilized will make a fine food dish for the crested because the Pixie can't even get it's whole body in it. (I only hope the pixies loss of appetite isn't due to minor moss ingestion)
 

Kacymyree

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I actually tried ecoearth and had many problems with it. it holds too much humidity with glass tanks and molds. I use paper towles. if he is shedding make sure you have a moist hide so he can shed with no problems. mine still eat when they shed, their shed should come off quickly. if it takes long, then there is a humidity problem.
 

Starforce2

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maybe I'll try the bark nuggets then. The local reptile experts use alot of that in all thier gecko cages including cresteds, gargoyes and Isle E's. Plus I suppose if the eco earth goes bad I can get more..sold by the bag fairly cheap.
 

ThyDemise

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not to be the pooper of parties, but, there are many things wrong.

first, screen cage is bad, if you cant keep it humid enough in there for him you should at least get a sterlite tub to put him in asap until you can get a tank (im not a fan of keeping animals in tupperware, but they make great temp tanks as they hold humidity very well). keeping him in there too long with it dry like that is not good at all, espeically if hes shedding. but if you choose against that for whatever reason, at least give him saunas regularly while hes shedding and to ensure hydration.

second, cgd is a must, its not a conspiracy that all the experts are in on to get you to spend your money on their products, its essential. fruits and nectars are a big part of their diet in the wild, you cant replicate that with a few crickets and waxworms (which shouldnt be fed anyway). but if you choose against that for whatever reason at least try to offer some sort of fruit, banannas mangos, something.

third, if youre going to simply toss a bunch of crickets in over night as your approach to feeding, loose substrate of any kind is not really a good idea no matter what kind you use. not just for the risk of impaction, which is extremely higher with younger ones, i dont know how old your is, but also the bugs will find a way to hide and the bigger particle substrate you use the easier it will be for them to do that. not to mention even if you dust the crix before dumping them in, by the time your crested actually finds it the dusting will have been for nothing and will end up rubbed off throughout the cage anyway.

fourth, its sounds like you didnt put him through a proper QT peroid. no matter what you choose to do as substrate, you should always put new additions into a qt tank, paper towels, minimal decor but adequate foliage to make them feel secure, of course. this way you can closely monitor his eating/pooping behaviors to not only make sure that he is in fact eating and pooping but to make sure that his poop is what its supposed to be. despite who he came from or how reputable they are, its always good practice to play it safe. if you wouldve done that you wouldnt be guessing if he actually ate or not, youd know. and the waste wouldnt get mixed up in the substrate, it would be easy to find.

lastly, just leave him alone. quit stirring up the cage. it can take 1-3 weeks sometimes for these guys to settle in and the more you mess with them the less they will eat and the longer it will take.

i dont know what your temps are but im sure, hopefully, you already know not to push these guys too far past 80 degrees.

and im in no way against loose substrate or feeding live. i have some guys on just paper towels, some on eco earth or cocoa noir and some in planted tanks. cgd is the main diet i use, i offer crix, dubia or pheonix worms a couple times a week. some love bugs, some hate it, some wont touch a pheonix worm but will devour a cricket. theyre all different and you have to find what works best for them. i have over 40 rhacs and every single one is as healthy as can be, and i learned each one by proper quarantining periods and getting to know their behaviors prior to putting them in a different tank to ensure i was providing the most appropriate habitat for them that i could.



one thing about eco earth. i personally have never had a problem with mold. i actually find that it dries faster than moss does, which is partially why i use it. and i found if you put it in dry and just mist heavy every night it will keep the humidity good throughout the night and slowly dry out during the day, which is what you want. when i tried to put it in damp it stayed wet forever and i ended up having to leave lids off tanks to air them out because they retained too much moisture. but i would not suggest bark of any kind. i would even suggest organic soil or peat moss instead.

anyway, thats my two cents, whatever its worth. good luck
 

Starforce2

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I'll try those organic soil or pete moss, I know the gardening store sells organic stuff and the guy knows his stuff so I can make sure not to get anything with additives.

As for the screen cage..everyone I talked to which included a crestie vendor at the show and 3 pet stores recommended the screen cage. Tehn again, when I had anoles as a kid they recommended a 10 gal with silica sand and a heat rock which killed 3 of them in less than a year each..so I'm getting a glass one saturday.

Fruit..so far he's shown interest in licking a grape. I think if I mashed it up a bit more he might have been trying to chew on it. I did cat it in half and squeeze it to mush. I assume tomato is too acidic? Bananas are next. The first night I threw in some big crix and he must have ate a couple because they're hard to miss at that size. make noise too. He's ignoring waxies all together. I have him in a freshly sterilized cricket keeper on my desk atm and am watching him roam around licking everything. BTW the eye licking is cool. I've seen him poop twice, once the night I got him (sunday) and now and it's a creamy white. (not sure if that's what it should look like..I've honestly never seen one poop at the reptile store.then again theirs have kinked or missing tails so who knows if they're good examples anyways) I will probably put him back in the cricket keeper tomarrow and try a small roach and see what he does. I've been trying to keep the main room lights off as much as possible with only a red bulb on the cage. Someone suggested using blue but the only one I have came with my frog and I hesitate to use it because I've heard those frog starter kits come with bulbs that tend to explode and it's 60 watts..I'd think that'd cook him instead. The red is only 25.

I absolutley wont use paper towels for substrate unless it's a very small cage..too much work...as I am guessing those need alot of changing as they'll start to rot.

Room temp right now is around 75. I've got a book on them and it does give the temp range and also disagrees with people who use CGD diet exclusivley or as a major part, it says a captive gecko chasing a cricket is the only excersize it will ever get and the undigestable parts of the crickets (or other bugs) add important roughage. I do have a bag of the stuff and little plastic cups, but first I need to boil a heavy feeder bowl with a pot roughly the size of those dishes as it was used for my toad. He'll just tip the cups over. I'm thinking he's heavy enough to propably tip the larger plastic waxworm containers too. He's 7 inches with tail. Also in the cage right now is an eye scale. I've wtached him several times today doing what seems to be toe biting (he seems to be pulling off skin and eating it but if I try to get a closer look he see's me and stops). The part that I saw on his neck 2 days ago is gone and that seems to just leave his tail and the other eye which is mostly off.

You mentioned mango's and banana's. I am looking for a list of fruits..real fruit..that I can try. There's a list out there for dragons, but not a similar one for gecko's. What about citris? Tangerine, clemenites, grapefruit? Pineapple? Strawberry? We have atleast one of those here at any given time.

As far as quarentine..since I don't have any other cresteds..I didn't think I needed to as he's alone. If I can get him acting right I'd like to get a female by the end of the summer and then I'll keep her in a cricket keeper..once I'm sure it's not sick I'll put the cricket keeper in the terrarium and see how they react to seeing one another. But firstly, I need to get rid of this crap cage. Atleast it's expensive so I'll get some money out of selling it as it was in use for such a short time. Someone can use it for their arid lizzards.
 

ThyDemise

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'chasing food is the only exercise they get in captivity'...seriously? :|

'I absolutley wont use paper towels for substrate unless it's a very small cage..too much work...as I am guessing those need alot of changing as they'll start to rot'...again..seriously?

i give up. try a more dedicated rhac forum, repashy, ac, pangea, geckosunlimited, maybe theyll have better luck getting through.
 
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