Hypo hatchling from a normal mum

[Mumofmanyrescues]

FOLLOW ON FROM A PREVIOUS THREAD BUT JUST GENERAL QUESTIONS.

So I had an unplanned batch of eggs (5babies). Now I didn’t breed them and I thought it could be a rare parthenogenesis clutch. Yes I know beardies shouldn’t have them. However after a lot of research, there are odd cases out there. I know they can store sperm too. I do have a male but he is not housed with any one and I haven’t mated them and had her years so I know not stored from somewhere else. Now he may have done some
Sort of mission impossible and used his rope climbing set and made his way to the top viv to have a romantic evening with her but I do not see how the heck it happened.

So anyway she’s a normal yellow beardie and if we even look at him he’s a normal
Brown, yellow beardie.
Now I have 5 hatchlings (2 are size of normal hatchlings and 3 are size of two week olds when they hatched). So I knew one of the tiny ones was a lot paler than the others (they all look the same otherwise), it was only when looking carefully I noticed he’s a hypo. Now wouldn’t the mother and father have to carry both the hypo gene for it to be a visible hypo?

I dont think either of them came from a professional breeder years back (rescues). Can it happen just as a one off than needing both parents carrying it?

I’d think more the mum to carry it if anyone, however for instance, if it was parthenogenesis would she pass it down if she was a het?

Picture of Houdini (nickname as he’s the mini escapee.

 

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FOLLOW ON FROM A PREVIOUS THREAD BUT JUST GENERAL QUESTIONS. View attachment 91161

So I had an unplanned batch of eggs (5babies). Now I didn’t breed them and I thought it could be a rare parthenogenesis clutch. Yes I know beardies shouldn’t have them. However after a lot of research, there are odd cases out there. I know they can store sperm too. I do have a male but he is not housed with any one and I haven’t mated them and had her years so I know not stored from somewhere else. Now he may have done some
Sort of mission impossible and used his rope climbing set and made his way to the top viv to have a romantic evening with her but I do not see how the heck it happened.

So anyway she’s a normal yellow beardie and if we even look at him he’s a normal
Brown, yellow beardie.
Now I have 5 hatchlings (2 are size of normal hatchlings and 3 are size of two week olds when they hatched). So I knew one of the tiny ones was a lot paler than the others (they all look the same otherwise), it was only when looking carefully I noticed he’s a hypo. Now wouldn’t the mother and father have to carry both the hypo gene for it to be a visible hypo?

I dont think either of them came from a professional breeder years back (rescues). Can it happen just as a one off than needing both parents carrying it?

I’d think more the mum to carry it if anyone, however for instance, if it was parthenogenesis would she pass it down if she was a het?

Picture of Houdini (nickname as he’s the mini escapee.

Theoretically if she made babies all by herself then both copies of the babies genes would have to come from the mother. So if she were het for any trait, you would have a chance for the trait to display.
At a minimum it's absolutely safe to say your female has now proven out to be het hypo .

 

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Houdini is an absolute cutie btw.

 

[Mumofmanyrescues]

Theoretically if she made babies all by herself then both copies of the babies genes would have to come from the mother. So if she were het for any trait, you would have a chance for the trait to display.
At a minimum it's absolutely safe to say your female has now proven out to be het hypo .

So what if daddy had been a superman and got to her. Would they both need to carry the hypo gene for it to be visual in a baby ?

 

[Mumofmanyrescues]

Houdini is an absolute cutie btw.

Thank you, funny enough he’s a right little character. He’s the smallest and one of the boldest. He’s the escape artist and first one to run to the front of the viv when I open my glass. They are still not eating and were hatched fully on Sunday. I have a temp gun coming tomorrow to double check my temps. They are in a 4ft tank but stay mainly at one side (basking area). A t8 tube covering just over 3/4 of the tank. One baby had one cricket yesterday. They don’t seem frightened of the crickets. They are actually quite calm little guys and girls. Still got
One egg yet to hatch and candled it yesterday and it’s moving.

Oh is sexing possible this early? I looked and you can see slight differences in them. So if I was to guess off visually now I’d say 3 girls and 2 boys. X

 

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So what if daddy had been a superman and got to her. Would they both need to carry the hypo gene for it to be visual in a baby ?

That is correct, if the male did mate with her, it proves him out as het hypo also.

 

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Have you candle kit the mother to check for hemipenes? We know for sure she has female organs, it would be interesting to see if she has male also.
As far as sexing babies, if hemipenes show it's male for sure. Females are more tricky because some
males develope slow and hemipenes don't show up till later and can trick you into thinking it's a female.

 

[Mumofmanyrescues]

No, she’s had scans in the past and never said anything but I’ll check today.