My girlfriend had a beardie named Pandora. We were told it was female when we got it. Later we changed the name to Zen, he ended up being monstrous at 24 plus inches and 1300 grams. We all get fooled sometimesBro my head is spinning rn, I can’t believe it! AAAAAAaaaa
I’ll definitely post more photos of “her” soon
And, as a serious answer: It isn't that rare especially in reptiles that reproductive organs say "this" and appearance is more like "that", at least for a while.It might be that his lizard identifies as female even though he is a male and laid eggs to prove it
(I mean there is a ton of trans beardies after all) rofl
Yeah I know it's in bad taste but I just couldn't help myself
Bro legit read my mind, I was saying that too lmboIn todays world I'm not sure we are still safe to assume that lol.
It might be that his lizard identifies as female even though he is a male and laid eggs to prove it
(I mean there is a ton of trans beardies after all) rofl
Yeah I know it's in bad taste but I just couldn't help myself
Fr that must’ve been a surprise lolMy girlfriend had a beardie named Pandora. We were told it was female when we got it. Later we changed the name to Zen, he ended up being monstrous at 24 plus inches and 1300 grams. We all get fooled sometimes
Ahh okay that’s why I was confused because the experts I’ve talked to said that the colouration and the size of the lizard are defining factors of the gender, but I think they must’ve been new or something because this makes more sense than what they said, so thank you man appreciate it
They are factors, yes.
It was for her but I kind of suspected because he was big for a hatching also. We also bought a clutch mate and he was considerably bigger, they were about 4 or 5 weeks old when we got them.
Thank you so much this really helped me out!They are factors, yes.
Like the species of fence lizards found in Germany, and the kind of reptile I grew up with: green is male, brown is female - usually, with exceptions like juveniles are always brown/ brown-grey, the amount of green in males can vary, males outside of breeding season can look like the brightest females...
Those two are obvious: https://naturdetektive.bfn.de/fileadmin/_processed_/3/c/csm_Zauneidechsen_gemeinfrei_19ef29bdee.jpg
Also female, with a bit of green: https://www.waldwissen.net/assets/w...l_zauneidechse/wsl_zauneidechse_weibchen.jpeg
Likely juvenile but quite green for a juvenile, might be male, might be a quite green female: https://www.deutschlands-natur.de/img/visuals/amphibien-reptilien/zauneidechse.jpg
And that one: https://www.natura2000-lsa.de/cache/8316bb68e33ea29e09fc0823889e9a66.jpg
So in fact more complicated, despite I would still say as a good rule-of-thumb: bright coloration (and if the species has it, larger chin flaps) is male, muted coloration is female for a species showing gender dimorphism.
Then add in where something might have developed a bit mixed, like reproductive organs like one gender, hormone level more like the other one (e.g. female, high testosterone) and thus the appearance isn't defined that clearly (and that animal might even be infertile or technically fertile but offspring won't develop well if it's too much "in between").
AFAIK not for this species, but there are species where some male look more female to avoid having to fight males and rather try breeding when none looks, as well as some female tend to look more male to get rid of "unwanted attention", i.e. avoid the energy it takes to mate more than once thus having more energy for producing healthy eggs and males must be quicker in reproducing.
There is this study claiming that for western fence lizards, looking more male as a female doesn't work out well:
On possible reasons for that look despite they seem to be less attractive for males, from article:Feeling Blue: Gender-Bending Lady Lizards Miss Out on Love
Blue coloration on female fence lizards induces males to look for another mate, creating a mystery of why these markings persist.www.livescience.com
"So, why do females have blue markings at all, if they're so detrimental? It's possible that the markings are related to a trait that helps the ladies out in other ways. Because blue-bellied gals have higher testosterone, they might be more aggressive or competitive in times of scarcity. Or, perhaps they have vividly colored "really sexy sons" that pass on their genes prolifically, Langkilde said. Or maybe there's no reason at all."
For yours, at least, despite that lizard had been quite bright by your description, I think behavior and look are matching up well now.
Dang man
Here are the signature blue markings on his belly, this is why I’m basically positive he’s a male. If you look up the difference of the western fence lizard genders, the females have barely any blue on them are they’re known for being pretty big in size. Males are known for their striking blue colors and dominant behavior, and are considerably smaller than females. Larry is 8 inches long from tail-tip to nose.I’ve had Larry for more than a year, he is a western fence lizard and I caught him near a lake. He has a heat lamp, he has plenty of beetles and mealworms, plenty of place to hide and dig, and he’s been acting weird.
he randomly digs into the corner of the tank, he tried to dig under the side of his log, and this is unusual behaviour for him. 2 days ago I found these little white ovals in his tank and I’m not sure what they are. This happened last year too, but they were yellow. These are bigger than the ones last year. and yes I’m sure he’s a male, I’ve kept this types of lizards for years and I’ve never had this issue. Please help, I’m really worried about him! are these eggs?? ive never kept a female or any other lizard with him as I was afraid they’d hurt him. Here’s pictures!
to anyone who tries to help, thank you so much you don’t know how much I appreciate it
im worried about my little Larry boy(
I’m also not sure how old he is, I caught him by a lake on June 10th last year, so i know he is at least a year old
We call them rusty gades back home. I'm originally from Kentucky so we had Eastern fence lizards
Dangggg y’all got some Kfc back there?We call them rusty gades back home. I'm originally from Kentucky so we had Eastern fence lizards
I’m from Oregon so I’m not sure if there are eastern ones here. some of the ones I saw at the lake were literally black in color and blue on their stomach. They were huge too! I’m a big baby so I got a medium sized lizard This youtube video shows M/F . The female is just slightly lighter color belly than yours but the male is much darker. Female is around the 1:45 mark, male around the 2:45. Male is much darker blue. A female can have a variation in the darkness but never quite as dark as the male. You have a female.
That’s crazy man, I’ve always thought “she” was a “he”
thank you for clarifying, that helps. I thought something was seriously wrong there, I know it sounds silly but I thought they were like kidney stones or something of an underlying issue 
that makes more sense 
