Health concerns

[ghostkid90]

Yes

 

[ghostkid90]

Yes

Started out not bad but now it’s like you said looks like it’s being eaten

 

[AHBD]

Starting out so small is a red flag to me. Well, do what you can to help her. I'd be asking for at least a partial refund.

 

[ghostkid90]

I’m going to do what I can to make her as comfortable as possible till her vet appointment on Tuesday then we will see she’s just so small and fragile idn she’s the biggest sweet heart but if she’s going to suffer then well idn one of the hardest things as a pet owner

 

[ghostkid90]

I’m going to leave bad feedback the guys being a you know what so it is what it is I’ll worry about Adora

 

[Chris.]

Reading all of this is causing a mixture of sadness and anger in me. An other living beeing that has to suffer because of one persons greed!
I soo hope for little Adora to have a chance of a promising life. And kudos to you for not giving up and fighting for her!

 

[Claudiusx]

Sorry you and your dragon are having to go through this. Unfortunately, it's a pretty common story. The moral of the story being, as tempting as it is, don't buy fairly new genetics and if you do, only buy from a breeder who has been in the business for decades.

Breeders who have only been around for a year or two have absolutely 0 experience with genetics, and have no idea if they are selling healthy dragons, or dragons that are prone to health issues and disease.

The Red Monster morph is really new. As with anything new, it fetches a high price, which is enticing to scammers and people who just don't know better. Not saying this breeder is a scammer, but he clearly does not know how to ethically breed or do business.

A nip to the tip of the tail is fine, and most all breeders will still sell a dragon with a tail nip. However, a nip to the middle of the tail is basically a do not sell, or sell at an extremely reduced price as the tail isn't going to survive that.

Additionally, whether or not this breeder sold you the dragon knowing it had some type of fungal infection is irrelevant. Anybody with any knowledge of dragons (as a breeder should have) would know that an infection of that magnitude wouldn't have been caused by the short amount of time you had the dragon.

Fungal medications are very rough on their systems. And at this point, the infection is almost systemic if it isn't already. Hopefully your vet has good news for you and your dragon gets a chance to beat this.

-Brandon

 

[xp29]

Damn this is a hard thread to read. We all root for every single beardie, but babies are special and deserve a fair chance at life from the day the mating pair are together. I agree with Claudiusx about the tail nip, my new girl is missing the tip of her tail.
1) I was made aware from the start
2) it was minor and toward the tip
3) it was treated and HEALED before I received her.
I want to breed myself, but I've suffered some losses this year and have been set back at least a year, but I've avoided the red monster for precisely what @Claudiusx was saying, the morph is to new, and in my opinion they way the morph was created was unethical. It's much to heart breaking to see this kind of thing happen to unsuspecting people and especially to innocent babies. No amount of money is worth that price.
I truely hope you can save this baby and you have a good life together. If you have your heart set on a red beardie maybe check out Kevin dunne

***Available Bearded Dragons*** | Dragon's Den Herp

Dragon's Den Herpetoculture - MorphMarket

Dragon's Den Herpetoculture on MorphMarket is owned by Kevin Dunne and located in San Diego, California. Breeding and shipping captive bred reptiles since 1993

www.morphmarket.com

He has been in the hobby forever, and he introduced us to the Dunners someone like that is going to be a safe bet.

I got Zsa Zsa from Bourbon City Exotics and I couldn't be happier. She has a good selection of morphs/colors also. I'll link her morphmarket also.

Bourbon City Exotics - MorphMarket

Bourbon City Exotics on MorphMarket is owned by Courtney Roten and located in Bardstown, Kentucky. We love our dragons and updates from our customers! We breed healthy and genetically strong babies and consider them all family! View us on Instagram or facebook!

www.morphmarket.com

Please keep us updated on Adora I for one will be sending prayers your way, and I suspect so will everyone else.

 

[ghostkid90]

This is his response to me
Her wound was not infected and if had anything to do with fungal it wouldn’t be due to the wound. Fungus would have formed before the wound healed. She had the bite for weeks prior to it healing. It would not have healed should it have been infected. Think about it. When a wound is open is when the infection occurs. Not after it heals. I’m not sure what you’re trying to get from me but you’ve had the animal in your care for weeks and now she’s lost toes? Cmon man. I’ve been in dragons for over 15 years. This is not from a nip from a sibling. She would not be eating if she had a fungal infection as well. Any type of infection in an animal the first thing you notice is lack of appetite then the area surrounding the wound would become swollen and infected. Not healed and shed then it’s infected. Keith

 

[AHBD]

It appears that she was sold as a very small dragon, possibly a low appetite to begin with and you stated that she barely ate for you at first. And a dragon with Y.F. or other ailments might eat for a while, even dragons with serious health problems can still have SOME appetite until the end is near.

 

[xp29]

This is his response to me
Her wound was not infected and if had anything to do with fungal it wouldn’t be due to the wound. Fungus would have formed before the wound healed. She had the bite for weeks prior to it healing. It would not have healed should it have been infected. Think about it. When a wound is open is when the infection occurs. Not after it heals. I’m not sure what you’re trying to get from me but you’ve had the animal in your care for weeks and now she’s lost toes? Cmon man. I’ve been in dragons for over 15 years. This is not from a nip from a sibling. She would not be eating if she had a fungal infection as well. Any type of infection in an animal the first thing you notice is lack of appetite then the area surrounding the wound would become swollen and infected. Not healed and shed then it’s infected. Keith

Wow thats unbelievable, you should hit forums, google, morphmarket.com, anyplace you can leave a review and paste that along with your story and pictures. If he is that callas with someone that just spent nearly 700 dollars with him, can you imagine how he must treat his animals?

 

[AHBD]

Damn this is a hard thread to read. We all root for every single beardie, but babies are special and deserve a fair chance at life from the day the mating pair are together. I agree with Claudiusx about the tail nip, my new girl is missing the tip of her tail.
1) I was made aware from the start
2) it was minor and toward the tip
3) it was treated and HEALED before I received her.
I want to breed myself, but I've suffered some losses this year and have been set back at least a year, but I've avoided the red monster for precisely what @Claudiusx was saying, the morph is to new, and in my opinion they way the morph was created was unethical. It's much to heart breaking to see this kind of thing happen to unsuspecting people and especially to innocent babies. No amount of money is worth that price.
I truely hope you can save this baby and you have a good life together. If you have your heart set on a red beardie maybe check out Kevin dunne

***Available Bearded Dragons*** | Dragon's Den Herp

Dragon's Den Herpetoculture - MorphMarket

Dragon's Den Herpetoculture on MorphMarket is owned by Kevin Dunne and located in San Diego, California. Breeding and shipping captive bred reptiles since 1993

www.morphmarket.com

He has been in the hobby forever, and he introduced us to the Dunners someone like that is going to be a safe bet.

I got Zsa Zsa from Bourbon City Exotics and I couldn't be happier. She has a good selection of morphs/colors also. I'll link her morphmarket also.

Bourbon City Exotics - MorphMarket

Bourbon City Exotics on MorphMarket is owned by Courtney Roten and located in Bardstown, Kentucky. We love our dragons and updates from our customers! We breed healthy and genetically strong babies and consider them all family! View us on Instagram or facebook!

www.morphmarket.com

Please keep us updated on Adora I for one will be sending prayers your way, and I suspect so will everyone else.

I also recommend Kevin Dunne , has produced high quality animals for probably around 3 decades.

 

[ghostkid90]

Wow thats unbelievable, you should hit forums, google, morphmarket.com, anyplace you can leave a review and paste that along with your story and pictures. If he is that callas with someone that just spent nearly 700 dollars with him, can you imagine how he must treat his animals?

I 100% will I mean mistakes happen but he just wants to blame me non of my other dragons are sick she got a completely new set up I mean everything’s new idn I have a issue with buying the new morphs I have a zero when they first came out 7 months ago I got a trans zero and never had a issue but this is just a bad experience on a better not she just ate 10 roaches very active still I did put honey on her infected areas almost it looks like it’s peeling ? Kinda weird

 

[AHBD]

This is his response to me
Her wound was not infected and if had anything to do with fungal it wouldn’t be due to the wound. Fungus would have formed before the wound healed. She had the bite for weeks prior to it healing. It would not have healed should it have been infected. Think about it. When a wound is open is when the infection occurs. Not after it heals. I’m not sure what you’re trying to get from me but you’ve had the animal in your care for weeks and now she’s lost toes? Cmon man. I’ve been in dragons for over 15 years. This is not from a nip from a sibling. She would not be eating if she had a fungal infection as well. Any type of infection in an animal the first thing you notice is lack of appetite then the area surrounding the wound would become swollen and infected. Not healed and shed then it’s infected. Keith

Keep all of your communication with him.

 

[AHBD]

I 100% will I mean mistakes happen but he just wants to blame me non of my other dragons are sick she got a completely new set up I mean everything’s new idn I have a issue with buying the new morphs I have a zero when they first came out 7 months ago I got a trans zero and never had a issue but this is just a bad experience on a better not she just ate 10 roaches very active still I did put honey on her infected areas almost it looks like it’s peeling ? Kinda weird

Right , you're not a newb dragon owner and we as customers can make a mistake buying a too small but nice looking dragon with dubious health when we're looking for that certain morph or color. But the seller should have SOME empathy for what you are dealing with and the huge amount of $$ you spent on it as well as the enclosure , lights, decor.