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Errors in widespread nutrition guides for beardies
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[QUOTE="Claudiusx, post: 1917120, member: 31715"] Ok, I have more time so I will be more detailed and hopefully answer some of your concerns and questions. No it doesn't make any sense. The chart should have never even mentioned oxalates besides for the few items on their that actually are dangerously high eg. Rhubarb. You are correct, it's innaccurate. But it almost might not be. I will explain, but you are also right as typically, oxalates are found in the stems/leaves of the plant as opposed to the fruit. According to oxalate.org (which lists their source), bellpeppers have an oxalate count of 117mg/100g. They claim their source is USDA Dr. Duke, Which brings me to the point I made. Bellpeppers is quite a broad term. And with many vegies and greens, there are countless varieties of the same veggie. Take apples for instance. How many different varieties of apples do you think there are? For all we know, a certain variety of bellpepper could be super low on oxalates while another is high. The soil they are grown in or the fertilizer used can even have an effect. And, exactly which parts of the plant are used for testing purposes has a HUGE impact. All that's to really get to the point I'm trying to make, and have made to others in the past - Don't worry about Oxalate content. It's not going to present an issue in our situation (or in most situations). And honestly, while the intentions are good to be aware of them (oxalates do bind to calcium after all) the effect isn't worrysome. If their was a good nutritional saying that mimic'd the monetary saying [i]"Penny smart, pound dumb."[/i] it would fit quite well in this case IMO. Oxalates can cause other issues as you are aware, but I will touch on that later. Another good point that I too bring up a lot. Staple gets confused with "the only thing that needs to be offered." The advice I give (and am trying to spread) is that variety is the best thing you can do for the health of our dragons (and ourselves to be honest..) If the term is changed, or thought of differently, there really is no problem IMO with labeling certain items as such. I think it's just a convenience thing to say that a green is a staple while another is not. However, not 1 green is better than another in every single way. Many offer many different benefits and micronutrients that another might not have. This is where the advice of variety comes in. If you are offering a variety, you already dilute the effect of any potential issue with "high" oxalates. If you were concerned with them to begin with. Correct, Collards typically do have decent oxalate content. In fact, Kale is often discouraged because of it's "high" oxalate content. However, collards have higher oxalate content than kale. So really, just another reason to ignore oxalate content, and more fuel to the fire as to why the chart shouldn't have used it, as they have no standard criteria. That being said, Collards are still a great "staple" green. They are prenty nutritious, and have a very nice Ca:P ratio. Plus they are packed full of important micronutrients. As are many other veggies and fruits. -Brandon [/QUOTE]
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