Drache613":3t66th5i said:Hello,
Poor Evee! She is having a rough time right now! I know syringe or assisted feeding is not
fun for either one of you. There is always a risk involved when feeding them like that, but it
does sound like you are extremely careful though.
Placing her in a decline position & keeping her warmer overnight should help quite a bit in the
case she is developing any type of respiratory issue. Is her beard still normal color too?
At least she hasn't laid anymore eggs though, at the moment. I hope she wont have anymore
problems with them.
The Bactrim or sulfa based medication should be ok for using as a broad spectrum antibiotic,
but sulfa based antibiotics are hard on their system so continue with daily fluids as best you
can so she doesn't get dehydrated.
Keep us posted on her.
Tracie
AHBD":ttykvoik said:Hi there, I know Tracie will have some good input but I am sorry to hear about Evee's diagnosis. I wanted to comment on the vet saying that leatherbacks [ I'll call the L.B's ] or hypo's are more prone to health problems. This is not true at all, those 2 morphs have been around for at least 30 years an are as hardy as any in captivity. I raised L.B dragons for over 20 years and still own 2 boys, clutchmates that are 8 years old. So her morph is not a factor. Just keep up with the calcium, try to get her natural sunlight and keep her well hydrated and as stress free as possible. Do you have any new pics of her ?
AHBD":14mrvabz said:When you consult with the vet tonight ask him how the septicemia was diagnosed. If her bloodwork was supposedly all good I would think it would have elevated something to indicate infection. But see what he says, be respectful of course. As for how + why exotic vets can practice but be unknowing about certain species, it is quite common. While some of them are sincere + helpful others may think that since they are an animal Dr. that they can see whatever they want in small animal practice but actually know very little about reptiles. Exotic vets may know more about rabbits, ferrets + birds.
And again, the thing with any morphs being weak + prone to health problems came about back when the trans. [ transluscent ] dragons were being bred, many were weak + sickly for the first 5 or more years , and the next big morph to have serious health problems were the witblits and similar morphs [ whitish/grey color with no pattern ] I still remember the long discussion on a beardie website where the originator of the witblits [ I believe he was from South Africa ] was defending his new morph and all the controversy over it.
But the leatherback + hypo's have been strong for as long as I can remember. How is Evee doing today ? Is she eating + drinking anything, at least the supplemental food ?
However.. she did seem to perk up alot today.. it was forsure noticable..can't remember if I said this on here or not.. but we spent a few hours outside soaking up the sun at a family function.. to my shock and amazement she bit of and ate a blade of grass!!! First time all month! Hasnt ate anything else willingly, but I don't even have to open. Her mouth just drip on nose.. wait a sec and she will lock it up. She's even got some if her firey attitude back. Maybe best of all..she's starting to use her leg again little by little!! Guessing the Dr got some of that pressure off her spine.. giving her back mobility..idk tho if it was pressure due to eggs combined with anorexia causing the leg... How wouldn't that mean it wasn't magically instant appearing arthritis causing it?? I really just don't know what to think.Rayn3bow09":2sg88hgo said:AHBD":2sg88hgo said:When you consult with the vet tonight ask him how the septicemia was diagnosed. If her bloodwork was supposedly all good I would think it would have elevated something to indicate infection. But see what he says, be respectful of course. As for how + why exotic vets can practice but be unknowing about certain species, it is quite common. While some of them are sincere + helpful others may think that since they are an animal Dr. that they can see whatever they want in small animal practice but actually know very little about reptiles. Exotic vets may know more about rabbits, ferrets + birds.
And again, the thing with any morphs being weak + prone to health problems came about back when the trans. [ transluscent ] dragons were being bred, many were weak + sickly for the first 5 or more years , and the next big morph to have serious health problems were the witblits and similar morphs [ whitish/grey color with no pattern ] I still remember the long discussion on a beardie website where the originator of the witblits [ I believe he was from South Africa ] was defending his new morph and all the controversy over it.
But the leatherback + hypo's have been strong for as long as I can remember. How is Evee doing today ? Is she eating + drinking anything, at least the supplemental food ?
Yea now that I'm thinking about it.. I bet the immune deficiency causing the septicemia is probably a cover for his college not doing her job correctly.. what he meant to say was septicemia caused by negligent doctor at a vet office I happen to be the owner of.. but no connection there..guess I shoulda took her to a different herp all together. Truthfully the only reason I stayed at the same hospital but different Dr diff. Location was when I called him to complain he called her in antibiotics and said he would see me at a reduced price.. im sure u can guess that bill wasn't short 1cent!!
That's what I was wondering..if blood work looked good.. how does he know what it is? U don't think he would just take an educated guess.. like well she had slugs still stuck from a month ago.. previous ones she layed were deformed.. so most likely a yolk infection..and bc reg antibiotics didn't make much of a difference..the infection has to b agressive.. and so I can explain the leg paralysis and pain.. it's gotta be arthritis.. put it together osteomyelitis septicemia!! I mean I coulda and already did figure it wasat least a cousin to that diagnosis.. wonder if he will give me copies of the blood test and x-ray..
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