Dr.Wilson wants to dig!

MollyM

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Dr. James Wilson
Wilson scratches his lil cavern when going to sleep, I think he would like to do a small burrow, so I am looking to put a section in his terrarium with excavator clay (?) about 1/3, to cover what the tiles doesn’t.

What do you think?

And also wondering, is there a difference between the colors ? I saw 3 types, same ingredients but diff color .. TY in advance !!
 

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Wilson scratches his lil cavern when going to sleep, I think he would like to do a small burrow, so I am looking to put a section in his terrarium with excavator clay (?) about 1/3, to cover what the tiles doesn’t.

What do you think?

And also wondering, is there a difference between the colors ? I saw 3 types, same ingredients but diff color .. TY in advance !!
Most of them love to dig. My only beef with excavator clay is it gets to hard for them to dig. But giving them the option to dig is great enrichment 🙂
 

ChileanTaco

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Wilson scratches his lil cavern when going to sleep, I think he would like to do a small burrow, so I am looking to put a section in his terrarium with excavator clay (?) about 1/3, to cover what the tiles doesn’t.

What do you think?

And also wondering, is there a difference between the colors ? I saw 3 types, same ingredients but diff color .. TY in advance !!
As I'm using sand and excavator clay, I think this is a very good idea :)

I don't know about different colors of excavator clay - here I found only one, but I know that reptile supplies are very limited here.



My only beef with excavator clay is it gets to hard for them to dig.
IMHO not a big problem:
- I pre-shape caves. Like in nature they might use an old burrow of another animal. My dragon modifies those.
- I can make it slightly wet from time to time (not so much that it smears around!)
- If it's hard, that's exercise! (adult male dragon, sturdy but not overweight)
 

MollyM

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mb it’s not excavator clay, it’s this, but
it seems very similar…
 

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ChileanTaco

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I do not know this one, don't know how well this sticks together when wet and keeps its shape after drying out.
I use the excavator clay (obviously clay, a bit more rough than what is used for pottery), and desert sand (I get directly from the desert). From the desert sand, I can shape not more than a bit a bumpy surface, still what would count as "flat" in nature. From the excavator clay, I can shape things similar to when making pottery, and once dried out the shape stays until my dragon might dig it apart.
 

MollyM

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I do not know this one, don't know how well this sticks together when wet and keeps its shape after drying out.
I use the excavator clay (obviously clay, a bit more rough than what is used for pottery), and desert sand (I get directly from the desert). From the desert sand, I can shape not more than a bit a bumpy surface, still what would count as "flat" in nature. From the excavator clay, I can shape things similar to when making pottery, and once dried out the shape stays until my dragon might dig it apart.
I live in Canada, no desert sand here lolll I will see what I can do
 

MollyM

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I do not know this one, don't know how well this sticks together when wet and keeps its shape after drying out.
I use the excavator clay (obviously clay, a bit more rough than what is used for pottery), and desert sand (I get directly from the desert). From the desert sand, I can shape not more than a bit a bumpy surface, still what would count as "flat" in nature. From the excavator clay, I can shape things similar to when making pottery, and once dried out the shape stays until my dragon might dig it apart.
 

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ChileanTaco

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I live in Canada, no desert sand here lolll I will see what I can do
Yes, it's clear to me that most have to buy it. (Was just why I cannot recommend a brand of sand: We live in a city in the Atacama desert :D) But on the opposite, we struggled on where to buy a large branch - also could not forage for one, as of no forests :D

For the product you found:
Could you post larger images? I can only read the largest print in them (just because the resolution of those screenshots is so low, so zooming in won't help). It looks like screenshots from a smartphone (?) - do you have a link instead?
Over all: make sure it is only sand, not something like walnut shells or plastic pellets that just mimic sand.
 

MollyM

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Yes, it's clear to me that most have to buy it. (Was just why I cannot recommend a brand of sand: We live in a city in the Atacama desert :D) But on the opposite, we struggled on where to buy a large branch - also could not forage for one, as of no forests :D

For the product you found:
Could you post larger images? I can only read the largest print in them (just because the resolution of those screenshots is so low, so zooming in won't help). It looks like screenshots from a smartphone (?) - do you have a link instead?
Over all: make sure it is only sand, not something like walnut shells or plastic pellets that just mimic sand.
 

ChileanTaco

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Taco
Thanks! The red and ocher one looks very similar to what I use, so if I had to buy sand, for covering the ground, I'd go for that. The grey-black one looks more like pebbles, I would not use that. So there is not only a different color, but they are really a different texture.
For comparison, how the sand looks that I use (not only color but also texture), see the attached images. In the left image, there is only sand (on the ground), a large stone and in the background a fake stone structure.
For shaping something, I'd really stick with the excavator clay. In the second image, you see that ceiling of the cave, towards the left? Half of it (upper half in the image) is fake stone, but lower half is then the excavator clay. This structure holds up for already almost 2 years!
Both together, some sand plus excavator clay, IMHO work really well and if I had to design a second bearded dragon enclosure, I would repeat that for sure.
If covering the ground with sand, I recommend: Especially the first weeks, spraying it with water each day in the morning. It then dries out and forms a quite hard surface (if I want to replace some sand, I really have to break the crust apart using a metal spoon or shovel; think of it like soil or sand hardening in nature). From then on, spraying regularly isn't that important anymore. I do it on most days to mimic morning dew, but if for any reason it is not sprayed (e.g.: both me and my partner are away and I don't want to bother somebody who takes care with doing also that), nothing bad happens. With that, I also have no problems with dusty sand flying around. However, some (or just one?) user here reported having found dust from the sand covering the lamps over time (I do not have this problem, but it might depend on the type of sand and the distance of the lamps from the sand). For this reason, when switching to large amounts of sand, I recommend checking that, and if necessary cleaning off the lamps regularly.
 

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MollyM

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Dr. James Wilson
Thanks! The red and ocher one looks very similar to what I use, so if I had to buy sand, for covering the ground, I'd go for that. The grey-black one looks more like pebbles, I would not use that. So there is not only a different color, but they are really a different texture.
For comparison, how the sand looks that I use (not only color but also texture), see the attached images. In the left image, there is only sand (on the ground), a large stone and in the background a fake stone structure.
For shaping something, I'd really stick with the excavator clay. In the second image, you see that ceiling of the cave, towards the left? Half of it (upper half in the image) is fake stone, but lower half is then the excavator clay. This structure holds up for already almost 2 years!
Both together, some sand plus excavator clay, IMHO work really well and if I had to design a second bearded dragon enclosure, I would repeat that for sure.
If covering the ground with sand, I recommend: Especially the first weeks, spraying it with water each day in the morning. It then dries out and forms a quite hard surface (if I want to replace some sand, I really have to break the crust apart using a metal spoon or shovel; think of it like soil or sand hardening in nature). From then on, spraying regularly isn't that important anymore. I do it on most days to mimic morning dew, but if for any reason it is not sprayed (e.g.: both me and my partner are away and I don't want to bother somebody who takes care with doing also that), nothing bad happens. With that, I also have no problems with dusty sand flying around. However, some (or just one?) user here reported having found dust from the sand covering the lamps over time (I do not have this problem, but it might depend on the type of sand and the distance of the lamps from the sand). For this reason, when switching to large amounts of sand, I recommend checking that, and if necessary cleaning off the lamps regularly.
Ok thank you so much!! I was looking at the grey to match his fake cave but was worried exactly about the texture !!
 

MollyM

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Dr. James Wilson
Yes, it's clear to me that most have to buy it. (Was just why I cannot recommend a brand of sand: We live in a city in the Atacama desert :D) But on the opposite, we struggled on where to buy a large branch - also could not forage for one, as of no forests :D

For the product you found:
Could you post larger images? I can only read the largest print in them (just because the resolution of those screenshots is so low, so zooming in won't help). It looks like screenshots from a smartphone (?) - do you have a link instead?
Over all: make sure it is only sand, not something like walnut shells or plastic pellets that just mimic sand.
We could trade wood for sand 🤣🤣🤣 Need to look up where this desert is ! Looks nice 🤩
 

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