Drache613":bt1nkwtw said:Hello,
Does he seem to be in any pain or does he draw back & away when you touch that area
at all?
Is it hard, or soft to the touch?
It is probably either going to be an abscess/infection of some type or a cyst. Can you think
of any time he could have fallen & hit his beard area, or not?
Tracie
claudiusx":5m6xmkqu said:Hi how's he doing today?
Could you get us a picture of him from the side?
This most likely wont be something that goes away on its own. More than likely it will need vet treatment.
Do you have a good reptile vet near you?
It's good that it doesnt seem to be bothering him. Has it grown over time or did it kinda just show up one day?
I dont think I'd continue with the bedatine in the mouth. I'll let tracie speak on that though. Raw unpasteurized honey would be a good thing to supplement with though as it should help fight off infection as it travels down the throat.
Oh yeah, how old is fig?
-Brandon
kingofnobbys":2q9gadv4 said:Need a REPTILE VET to examine this and take bloods and a small needle aspiration of the contents of the lump.
Being so close to the airway and the throat, this should be regarded as a serious health issue and not delayed seeking treatment.
I wont hazard a guess what the lump is as you've not given enough information.
kingofnobbys":1bopid1s said:If you can't get him to the vet, maybe the vet can send out one their nursing assistants to collect him and take him to their surgery to examine the "growth" / mass.
In the mean time , invest in an Artline 70 and mark periphery / the edge of the mass , these a "permanent markers" and the ink will not harm him on his skin.
This way you will be able see if the mass is subsiding or growing.
I don't think it's wise to delay getting him to a vet ,
>> If it's an abscess ( it's full of bacteria and if it invades the bloodstream it's bad news ) , will require draining and perhaps surgical debridement of the infected tissues
>> if it's a tumor, sooner you deal with it the better the prognosis and the simpler / cheaper the surgical removal
>> if it's a cyst , the vet will be able to tell you and give suitable meds to inject to get it to subside and disappear.
I doubt if it will go away off it's own accord, if anything , it's going to grow and perhaps invade other soft tissues and perhaps even the jaw bones and teeth . We've seen this kind of thing here before and the result of delaying has never been cheap or good and resulted in significantly more suffering post surgery .
babyfigment":38j901vl said:kingofnobbys":38j901vl said:If you can't get him to the vet, maybe the vet can send out one their nursing assistants to collect him and take him to their surgery to examine the "growth" / mass.
In the mean time , invest in an Artline 70 and mark periphery / the edge of the mass , these a "permanent markers" and the ink will not harm him on his skin.
This way you will be able see if the mass is subsiding or growing.
I don't think it's wise to delay getting him to a vet ,
>> If it's an abscess ( it's full of bacteria and if it invades the bloodstream it's bad news ) , will require draining and perhaps surgical debridement of the infected tissues
>> if it's a tumor, sooner you deal with it the better the prognosis and the simpler / cheaper the surgical removal
>> if it's a cyst , the vet will be able to tell you and give suitable meds to inject to get it to subside and disappear.
I doubt if it will go away off it's own accord, if anything , it's going to grow and perhaps invade other soft tissues and perhaps even the jaw bones and teeth . We've seen this kind of thing here before and the result of delaying has never been cheap or good and resulted in significantly more suffering post surgery .
Unfortunately I live in a low income area and the animal hospital is quite small (and unfortunately understaffed) so idk if they would offer a service like that but I will certainly email them to see! Thank u!
In the mean time, besides keeping an eye on the size of the lump, is there anything else I should be doing? Raising temps, offering more supplements, using honey? He had a slight issue w his calcium levels within his first month home that I had to bring him in to a vet to check out. I have powder & liquid calcium now that I use on all his foods, but should I increase the amount?
kingofnobbys":2ijf8i37 said:babyfigment":2ijf8i37 said:kingofnobbys":2ijf8i37 said:If you can't get him to the vet, maybe the vet can send out one their nursing assistants to collect him and take him to their surgery to examine the "growth" / mass.
In the mean time , invest in an Artline 70 and mark periphery / the edge of the mass , these a "permanent markers" and the ink will not harm him on his skin.
This way you will be able see if the mass is subsiding or growing.
I don't think it's wise to delay getting him to a vet ,
>> If it's an abscess ( it's full of bacteria and if it invades the bloodstream it's bad news ) , will require draining and perhaps surgical debridement of the infected tissues
>> if it's a tumor, sooner you deal with it the better the prognosis and the simpler / cheaper the surgical removal
>> if it's a cyst , the vet will be able to tell you and give suitable meds to inject to get it to subside and disappear.
I doubt if it will go away off it's own accord, if anything , it's going to grow and perhaps invade other soft tissues and perhaps even the jaw bones and teeth . We've seen this kind of thing here before and the result of delaying has never been cheap or good and resulted in significantly more suffering post surgery .
Unfortunately I live in a low income area and the animal hospital is quite small (and unfortunately understaffed) so idk if they would offer a service like that but I will certainly email them to see! Thank u!
In the mean time, besides keeping an eye on the size of the lump, is there anything else I should be doing? Raising temps, offering more supplements, using honey? He had a slight issue w his calcium levels within his first month home that I had to bring him in to a vet to check out. I have powder & liquid calcium now that I use on all his foods, but should I increase the amount?
Emailing will not elicit a timely response. In most cases , vets wont even read the email, it'll go to their "junk" folder and be purged.
Only way your email stands a chance of even being seen is to call the vet ahead of time and tell them that you are sending an email with photos and other details included. The vet will not offer a diagnosis or treatment without physically seeing you and the sick dragon. Nor are they going to offer free vet advise by email or over the phone.
Pick up the phone and call them and speak to them.
I'm pretty sure all vets have surgeries on the premises as well as ultrasound and xray imaging gear.
Drache613":1yjpnvu3 said:Hello,
How is your dragon doing this evening?
It definitely wont go away on its own most of the time, especially if it's an abscess, cyst or
a tumor. I hope it isn't cancer but we have seen cases with abscesses here on the forum
& usually with treatment it does help out.
I hope you are able to get him into a vet soon though. Keep us posted on him!
Tracie
Drache613":1g7dml24 said:Hello,
Oh that is good news you may be able to get him in next week. They should examine
him & feel the lump. I would personally ask if they were going to aspirate any fluids from
that area to culture it so they can see what is going on there.
I'm glad he is eating so hopefully it isn't bothering him too badly.
Let us know how he is doing.
Tracie
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