bigsad9000":166rfk20 said:You don't think they could possibly make burrows and brumate until winter is over?
kingofnobbys":2rii6w2q said:Only states of the USA where dumped bearded dragons might survive winter are Florida , the southern end of Texas , and Hawaii .
Aaradimian":3kdgq7ou said:kingofnobbys":3kdgq7ou said:Only states of the USA where dumped bearded dragons might survive winter are Florida , the southern end of Texas , and Hawaii .
I'd suggest that they would probably be okay in New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, and parts of California and Utah that are more scrub-y/desert-y.
<<< doubt it …. too far north , winters too extreme, maybe the warmer year round areas of California but …. I woundn't bet money on that.
I live in Colorado, and while we do get snow and some cold winters, south & southwest of Denver conditions change fairly quickly. Because some of these areas are true desert, it does get cold at night, but not freezing, and the sand/soil retains heat enough that I think they'd be okay burrowing.
They definitely wouldn't make it in the foothills and mountains west of me, but Colorado is funny regarding winter because of the topography and its geographic location. In Denver, we can go an entire winter without a snowfall > a few cm. because we're in the rain shadow of the Rocky Mountains. However, there are years like this one where we get decent precipitation, though it never sticks around like in the U.S. upper Midwest states. East of Denver is the plains, which can get smacked with snow and strong storms, or not, depending on the year. The mountains usually see a goodly amount of snow, but the entire area goes through drought cycles, and areas like Pueblo, Grand Junction, and the 4-corners area can be quite dry.
They'd be pretty miserable in Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, and Florida because of the high humidity, but those states are likewise snow/freeze free on the sides near the Gulf of Mexico.
bigsad9000":3gqf4j12 said:
So I found this map of the climates of Colorado. Which ones would they thrive in?
I would imagine that they would do far better here that in Australia since I assume it isnt nearly as dry and food is more plentiful.
Aaradimian":bwc6dlk3 said:bigsad9000":bwc6dlk3 said:
So I found this map of the climates of Colorado. Which ones would they thrive in?
I would imagine that they would do far better here that in Australia since I assume it isnt nearly as dry and food is more plentiful.
Well, I suspect that the yellow areas in the west, southwest might be the most suitable only for the reasons I mentioned earlier. I don't think the eastern plains would be good because it does get cold enough to freeze/snow. Even the south-central near Raton Pass is probably not safe because they do get some hard snows there due to the altitude. And I'm talking about possibility to survive, not establish a population. For that, I think it'd be the other areas where freezes don't happen. Even Tucson and Sedona in AZ are not likely good places because they too are at altitude.
DorgEndo":3co9f4vv said:Ignoring the practical matter of how they would survive.
I could see the funny side of bearded dragons being featured on the news. People speculating and then disappointment when dragons do not affect the local mosquito population. Footage of dragons on logs, just laying around. There would be a massive wave of people taking selfies with those wild Colorado dragons. Maybe the hyper religious people are worried these new dragons are demons in disguise, Facebook is plastered with images to avoid the new Satan of Colorado, keep the children safe at all costs. After a few months no one would care anymore, the next big thing would replace the wild dragons of Colorado.
DorgEndo":2e3lod3d said:Ignoring the practical matter of how they would survive.
I could see the funny side of bearded dragons being featured on the news. People speculating and then disappointment when dragons do not affect the local mosquito population. Footage of dragons on logs, just laying around. There would be a massive wave of people taking selfies with those wild Colorado dragons. Maybe the hyper religious people are worried these new dragons are demons in disguise, Facebook is plastered with images to avoid the new Satan of Colorado, keep the children safe at all costs. After a few months no one would care anymore, the next big thing would replace the wild dragons of Colorado.
bigsad9000":3vyn5c9o said:Aaradimian":3vyn5c9o said:bigsad9000":3vyn5c9o said:
So I found this map of the climates of Colorado. Which ones would they thrive in?
I would imagine that they would do far better here that in Australia since I assume it isnt nearly as dry and food is more plentiful.
Well, I suspect that the yellow areas in the west, southwest might be the most suitable only for the reasons I mentioned earlier. I don't think the eastern plains would be good because it does get cold enough to freeze/snow. Even the south-central near Raton Pass is probably not safe because they do get some hard snows there due to the altitude. And I'm talking about possibility to survive, not establish a population. For that, I think it'd be the other areas where freezes don't happen. Even Tucson and Sedona in AZ are not likely good places because they too are at altitude.
Oh yeah sorry probably should've mentioned that. Yes I do mean establish a population not just one beardie being able to survive.
And I also don't mean releasing a pet into the wild in colorado I mean multiple dragons being released (wild dragons not captive)
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