Beardie still lethargic for 3 months and 2 weeks

[doommig]

So like the title says she's still lethargic. I have to almost force her to eat, well she eats by her self, but I have to take her out of the cave and set things to her preference. She's eating much less now than before all this. Shes in her cave 24/7. She is about 8 months old. A big worry is she hasn't shed in like 3-4 months. On the up side her weight is stable at about 195 grams, I've been tracking her weight for the past 3 weeks. This abnormal behavior has been going on for about 3 months and 2 weeks. Since mother's day. Here is her setup.
T5 24 inch 10.0 reflector zoo med uvb tube -- 8 and a half inches closest to the light ( the very top of her cave.) 13 and a half inches from the basking spot to the uvb light running diagonal ( the uvb is on top of fine mesh) see photos for reference.
Basking spot is about 98- 100 degrees with the Ambient I think is 85 , but on the cave Is 90 degrees if she gets too hot on her basking spot.
Cool side sits at 77- 80 degrees Fahrenheit.
That's everything, hope I'm not forgetting anything. Here is a pic of her enclosure right now.

If Any one could tell me if this is normal behavior and what not thank you

P.s she doesn't like to poop much, I kinda have to give her a bath to poop now. I mean she never bask, even after she eats , so I guess it makes sense.

 

[KarrieRee]

So like the title says she's still lethargic. I have to almost force her to eat, well she eats by her self, but I have to take her out of the cave and set things to her preference. She's eating much less now than before all this. Shes in her cave 24/7. She is about 8 months old. A big worry is she hasn't shed in like 3-4 months. On the up side her weight is stable at about 195 grams, I've been tracking her weight for the past 3 weeks. This abnormal behavior has been going on for about 3 months and 2 weeks. Since mother's day. Here is her setup.
T5 24 inch 10.0 reflector zoo med uvb tube -- 8 and a half inches closest to the light ( the very top of her cave.) 13 and a half inches from the basking spot to the uvb light running diagonal ( the uvb is on top of fine mesh) see photos for reference.
Basking spot is about 98- 100 degrees with the Ambient I think is 85 , but on the cave Is 90 degrees if she gets too hot on her basking spot.
Cool side sits at 77- 80 degrees Fahrenheit.
That's everything, hope I'm not forgetting anything. Here is a pic of her enclosure right now.

If Any one could tell me if this is normal behavior and what not thank you

P.s she doesn't like to poop much, I kinda have to give her a bath to poop now. I mean she never bask, even after she eats , so I guess it makes sense.

I would unobstruct the UVB -- even tho the screen looks to be of a wide hole something is not right- needs to be able to get directly under the UVB a dont see a piece of decor directly under the UVB there for shes not getting any or not much of any --- please do this as soon as possible - distance for unobstructed 12-15 inches or w/ the screen 8-10 inches both directly under it

 

[doommig]

I would unobstruct the UVB -- even tho the screen looks to be of a wide hole something is not right- needs to be able to get directly under the UVB a dont see a piece of decor directly under the UVB there for shes not getting any or not much of any --- please do this as soon as possible - distance for unobstructed 12-15 inches or w/ the screen 8-10 inches both directly under it

Alright, can you tell me how you'd do it? Cause I don't know how to go about it.

 

[KarrieRee]

Alright, can you tell me how you'd do it? Cause I don't know how to go about it.

The steps w/ the platform does she sit on it? If so move it to the back of the tank directly under it distance 8-10 inches -- if she doesnt sit on it please go get a piece of decor or if she uses the rock piece move that under it but you need the correct distance - if you can take the screen off or cut it for it to be unobstructed distance 12-15 inches - you can also put it in the tank hang w/ these 3 M command Velcro fasteners- picture hanging wire – long plastic zip ties-- fishing line -

 

[doommig]

The steps w/ the platform does she sit on it? If so move it to the back of the tank directly under it distance 8-10 inches -- if she doesnt sit on it please go get a piece of decor or if she uses the rock piece move that under it but you need the correct distance - if you can take the screen off or cut it for it to be unobstructed distance 12-15 inches - you can also put it in the tank hang w/ these 3 M command Velcro fasteners- picture hanging wire – long plastic zip ties-- fishing line -

She doesn't sit on it, she is in her cave 24/7 . As for the rock piece, that sits about 10 inches from the uvb light, directly under it. But that near the top, the more you go down , the more distance it is from the uvb light. But like I said she's lethargic, and I don't want to cut the screen cause that's permanent. So I either left with unobstructed uvb light and on top of fine mesh uvb light. What's your take?

 

[KarrieRee]

She doesn't sit on it, she is in her cave 24/7 . As for the rock piece, that sits about 10 inches from the uvb light, directly under it. But that near the top, the more you go down , the more distance it is from the uvb light. But like I said she's lethargic, and I don't want to cut the screen cause that's permanent. So I either left with unobstructed uvb light and on top of fine mesh uvb light. What's your take?

She's not basking at all is not good unless she's going into brumation - but first get a weight on her kitchen food scale weigh in grams- next get a fecal from her feed her some plain canned pumpkin add a little olive oil 2 drops- take it in to the vet for a parasite test- then we will go from there-- if the count is high this is a exhibit of the behavior your getting-

 

[doommig]

She's not basking at all is not good unless she's going into brumation - but first get a weight on her kitchen food scale weigh in grams- next get a fecal from her feed her some plain canned pumpkin add a little olive oil 2 drops- take it in to the vet for a parasite test- then we will go from there-- if the count is high this is a exhibit of the behavior your getting-

I already did a fecal test for her and the test came back positive, then they gave her some medicine for her via syringe and now the parasites are all gone, this was a month ago. As for her weight , it's stable , I've been weighing her for 3 weeks, she's at 195 grams.

 

[KarrieRee]

I already did a fecal test for her and the test came back positive, then they gave her some medicine for her via syringe and now the parasites are all gone, this was a month ago. As for her weight , it's stable , I've been weighing her for 3 weeks, she's at 195 grams.

Ok then I would say she's trying to brumate - I think we need to get some more help on this see what others say -
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[AHBD]

I think I remember this from before, did I mention taking the hide out ? That's the first thing to do and make sure she has another climbing/basking option. If nothing helps you might opt for a blood test but that's a last resort.

 

[doommig]

I think I remember this from before, did I mention taking the hide out ? That's the first thing to do and make sure she has another climbing/basking option. If nothing helps you might opt for a blood test but that's a last resort.

Well I tried that already, Really I tried everything but a blood test, and nothing seem to change her behavior. So maybe I'll just opt for a blood test for her.

 

[AHBD]

How long did you take it out for and what did she do ?

 

[doommig]

How long did you take it out for and what did she do ?

Everytime I do it she goes to the corner to hide. As for how long a few hours then I put it back in the same day. Maybe I should just keep it out for days?

 

[AHBD]

Yes , keep it out and put in another climbing log but no hide. She will get used to it.

 

[doommig]

Yes , keep it out and put in another climbing log but no hide. She will get used to it.

Ok I'll try that and get back to you in a few days thank you.

 

[AHBD]

You're welcome, I think she's just stressed for some reason but it's good for her to learn that being out of the cave is O.K.