Another Petco story

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Peter Griffin

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Ok, so I went to Petco.... I know, I know... But it is a brand new one that just opened up last month. So, I figured.. Maybe just maybe it wouldn't be so bad. So I start making my way to the reptile stuff. Not too shabby, they have some viv decorations I actually hadn't seen before. I then remember that I want to start breeding superworms. I pick up a 50+ cup, carefully open the lid and see a pile of dead meal worms in what looks like wet, rotted saw dust.

I pick up another cup, open it up, same thing, but this cup has a nice layer of light green fuzzy mold over the mound of dead supers.

So, now I look and there is one 50+ cup left, I pick it up, thinking 3rd time is a charm. I slowly lift the lid to find, Mound of dead supers, mixed with blackish, dripping wet saw dust, light cover of the green fuzzy mold and........ MAGGOTS.
_______________________Me-----> :puke: :blob8: <---Employee_______________________

So, I look to the employee standing next to me that is stocking the Hermit crabs. I ask "Is this your section, or are you just stocking?" He replies "Ohh No, I'm the reptile specialist!" So I say, "Ok, did you know ALL of your supers are dead, covered with mold and maggots?" he tells me, "Ohh, I never really paid attention to those thingys."

Needless to say, I'm disappointed, but not surprised.
 

sunkist

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It's sad there are some stores like that. The Petco I go to, they really seem to care. At least the one guy I always interact with.
 

jscott

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report him to the store manager. the economy is tight, the last thing we need is some ignoramus sponging up money for doing or knowing nothing.

petco needs to send their empoyees through a short class, teach them proper husbandry.
 

Peter Griffin

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sunkist":070d3 said:
It's sad there are some stores like that. The Petco I go to, they really seem to care. At least the one guy I always interact with.

Yeah, it sucks, cause the store just opened. Hopefully it will get better. :roll:
 

patrickb

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Seems a small handful of people have great experiences with very specific stores of this and other major chains. I think it all boils down to how much the actual employees in the individual stores themselves care about what they are doing more than anything else, which would be just luck of the draw. I have read instances where supposedly <corporate insert your name brand here> has policies that all reptiles are kept in a certain manner, regardless of whether they are an arid desert species or an arboreal humid tropic species. Sending them to this school would do little good unfortunately.

As far as this "reptile specialist" I doubt that is a hard title to acquire in these chains. If you say you like lizards, you get the title. Hell, you could say you own some tarantulas and they would promote you to a "reptile specialist" most likely. :x

It even works to their advantage in a way. The employee sells someone a UVB bulb that isn't sufficient, a tank that is too small, substrate that is deadly to the animal, the wrong size or type of feeds and then the animal itself. The animal dies a slow death and then the new owner thinks it is something they are doing wrong because they followed the petstore employee's advice. At this point they either research on the internet the animal or they go buy another one from the same petstore thinking it was a problem with the individual animal itself.
 

EclpsPrinc

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I stopped in a new Petco the other day and the boy caring for the reptiles started a discussion with me. I told him I was there to pick up some RepCal Calcium (which they didn't stock). He said he had two beardies. We started talking about food and I asked him if he raised his own feeders. He had no clue what I meant by that. After I elaborated a bit, he said he fed his beardies mice. I asked 'pinkies'? He stated 'no... big mice'. I told him very politely what kinds of health issues that can cause and he simply stated 'I know...' :roll: If someone knows it's not good, why do it???? Geez!
 

Epic

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whenever i go to petco nobody EVER speaks to me when i'm standing in the reptile section. i was leaving after looking around a couple days ago, and i passed their koy fish pond. i look on the floor, and there is a LARGE koy fish on the floor. must of been out a hile becuase he wasn't flopping at all. i picked him up and put him back in the water and he swam away and seemed OK. as i'm leaving, i overheard a manager jokingly tell the "reptile specialist" that he needs to get in the ahbit of changing the turtles water, it's been the same for months. MONTHS. they laughed, threw bird food at each other, and i left. :banghead: the pure stupidity of these people just keep amazing me.
 

dolphinsilversea01

Juvie Member
Aahhh... and yet another horrible situation at a Petco.

I hate the fact that certain unknowledgable people ruin the rep for the rest of us.
I know it's hard, I am there almost daily and have to deal with corporate stupidity, but please try to remember that most of us, or at least I hope most of Petco employees, are there because they love animals and try to do what they know or taught what is best for them. As an employees knowledge grows, we don't always hide behinde the Petco way of doing things. If wear taught one way, we may not know of the other or technical best way.

It is not easy to become an animal specialist at Petco. I have looked into doing it throughout all the departments - bird, small animal, fish, and reptile. It is, at least for me, more difficult than it looks. There is alot of information you must consume and remember in a short period of time and then be tested on! Many have had to take the test a number of times before becoming certified. Upon this and the above please remember that we are taught by Petco, we learn the Petco way of doing things. If we know now other way, if no one has informed us of anything different than what do we have?
 

Peter Griffin

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I understand that. But...The sad shape of just the feeders, then for the "specialist" to say, he never messes with those "Thingies". Not only shows his incompetence with his knowledge but shows that he doesn't take proper care in his OWN department. I know this isn't how all employees are, just this reject. :evil:
 

Epic

Juvie Member
i'm sure there are a few Petco employees that actually care about the animals, and learning about them. i truly haven't seen one yet, but i'm sure they're out there. i'm in the retail business as well, and i know you can't rely on the information you have been given. you need to seek different points of views, different studies, etc. being taught one way is no excuse for poor knowledge. im not trying to attack you, i'm sure you are the exception, it's just what we see on a daily basis at these stores.
 

dolphinsilversea01

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Oh, I know ... it just saddens me. I know so many employees from different stores, and even different states, who care so much about the animals and love there job so much. It is sad that some ignorance out their shines through. I don't argue your point or fact, I just get tired of hearing the bad. I mean I know it's out their, but ugghhh...well I am sure you can try to understand.

We have joked at my Petco, saying things that a customer who doesn't know us or isn't a regular could probably take the wrong way. Our "joking" though is done sarcastically to the ignorant people at my store. The turtle water, just for example, we would say something like that after finding the water dirty to where someone the day before obviously didn't clean it out. It doesn't make it right, and it may not seem as a good way of handleing it (which it isn't the only way), but it gives us a chance to laugh about something that makes us want to cry and scream.
The throwing of the bird food - that was wrong! Petco dishes out alot of $ for that food and it sure shouldn't be thrown around. And the feeders, yeah we have had that problem at our store where customers come up and inform us that they are all dead in the fridge. It should be someone's, even all of our responsibility to check on them at least maybe once a week, it personally isn't something I think about. I get more worried about checking the birds poo to make sure non are sick, the beardies, etc. After reading about that the first time though I did think maybe I should make a form for people to state initials and date of checking on the feeders. I did this for cleaning out the crickets bins and it made people clean them out more!?! So, maybe it will help with the feeder problem.
 

Epic

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petco needs about 100,000 more employees just like you. :mrgreen: that sheet for the initials would be perfect.
 

patrickb

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dolphinsilversea01":8579c said:
It is not easy to become an animal specialist at Petco. I have looked into doing it throughout all the departments - bird, small animal, fish, and reptile. It is, at least for me, more difficult than it looks. There is alot of information you must consume and remember in a short period of time and then be tested on! Many have had to take the test a number of times before becoming certified. Upon this and the above please remember that we are taught by Petco, we learn the Petco way of doing things. If we know now other way, if no one has informed us of anything different than what do we have?
This is good to hear. At least I am wrong and it does take some work and training to become a specialist. The sad thing is that the misinformation taught during this is usually incorrect in the first place which just makes for a bad situation. It's not your fault, but just the nature of the corporate business model to make a profit off of animals I *guess*. Its much easier to keep all animals in the same uniform manner, but it isn't always the best practice. Different species need different setups, but the big guys on top seem to decide it is either easier, cheaper, or more convenient to standardize the husbandry of certain types of animals. People in general are less knowledgeable about reptiles and invertebrates so the practices of petstores don't seem all that appalling to the general public. Now, if the same general public were to come into a petstore and see the dogs and cats kept in an enclosure with wet mud as their bedding, they would have a fit. The more I come to love all kinds of different animals from the furry ones to the creepy crawly ones, the more disdain I have for petstores and importers in general. There are some good ones out there, but let's be frank, they are in it to make money, not for the welfare of the animals.
dolphinsilversea01":8579c said:
Oh, I know ... it just saddens me. I know so many employees from different stores, and even different states, who care so much about the animals and love there job so much. It is sad that some ignorance out their shines through. I don't argue your point or fact, I just get tired of hearing the bad. I mean I know it's out their, but ugghhh...well I am sure you can try to understand.
This I can relate to quite well. I have worked in restaurants for many years now and the negative impressions on customers is the things you hear, and the things they tell their friends. Much like you getting tired of hearing about the bad experiences at Petco or anywhere else, I get tired of hearing the stories of maybe they are going to spit in my food, or drop it on the floor because they don't like me. Lot's of bad apples out there in the bunch, and maybe even more so in the restaurant industry than the pet industry. One thing I know, if I ever see that happen at a place I work, someone's gonna lose their job, and I might lose mine as well if necessary. I take too much pride in my job to ever allow something like that to happen. Afterall, you don't have to love food or people to make money. If you eat at a certain place regularly, you begin to know when NOT to go eat there, because the service or food won't be as good as if you go at another time of day. Some people care, some don't. :( Sad, but true.

dolphinsilversea01":8579c said:
We have joked at my Petco, saying things that a customer who doesn't know us or isn't a regular could probably take the wrong way. Our "joking" though is done sarcastically to the ignorant people at my store. The turtle water, just for example, we would say something like that after finding the water dirty to where someone the day before obviously didn't clean it out. It doesn't make it right, and it may not seem as a good way of handleing it (which it isn't the only way), but it gives us a chance to laugh about something that makes us want to cry and scream.
To correlate this to my experiences in the restaurant industry, we do much the same. We joke all the time about things that if the customers in the dining room could hear, they probably wouldn't return. :D We don't take those jokes to heart though, and it is more of a means to passing the time or proving a point. IE: A customer says they want something extra crispy, or a meat item extra well done, I tell whomever is cooking it to "burn da **** out of it" Obviously we don't do that (or we would be out of business) but the other person knows what I mean and we get a little humor out of it. Nothing wrong with that, just that in this case, the customer didn't hear it.

dolphinsilversea01":8579c said:
The throwing of the bird food - that was wrong! Petco dishes out alot of $ for that food and it sure shouldn't be thrown around. And the feeders, yeah we have had that problem at our store where customers come up and inform us that they are all dead in the fridge. It should be someone's, even all of our responsibility to check on them at least maybe once a week, it personally isn't something I think about. I get more worried about checking the birds poo to make sure non are sick, the beardies, etc. After reading about that the first time though I did think maybe I should make a form for people to state initials and date of checking on the feeders. I did this for cleaning out the crickets bins and it made people clean them out more!?! So, maybe it will help with the feeder problem.
And this is the thing I love to hear about. It's people like you that these companies need more of. The ones that will take the initiative and do things like this. Someone that stands up and says this ain't right, or we could do this a different way is what makes the stores themselves better. I just wish my local Petco had you working there. :D Those feeders are the last thing on your mind, just like many things I do in my job each day. However, when it is brought to your attention, you will start thinking about it more actively and even look for a solution to the problem so that you aren't the only one taking care of or checking on them. I think your idea about the form is a great idea, and though I haven't worked in a petstore something as simple as that should at least make the other employees more aware. I'm not a fan of more paperwork, but sometimes it is needed to jumpstart the process.

I am quite sorry about the long post, I am just ranting at this point I guess. The more I think about it, the more I look at what happens in my company and see a lot of examples that are similar. I don't doubt one bit that you or the other employees care about the animals, its just my personal experiences and those I have read from others seem so negative at times. Your posts just further my opinion that its the little guys in each store that make the difference. The experience from one Petco (or any other petstore for that matter) to another is all about the people that work there. All I can say is keep up the good work and never forget your love for the animals themselves! More power to you!
 

patrickb

Juvie Member
Epic":14024 said:
petco needs about 100,000 more employees just like you. :mrgreen: that sheet for the initials would be perfect.
I had to write an encyclopedia to say what you just said in one sentence.... :lol:
 

dolphinsilversea01

Juvie Member
LOL, you guys are great!

You seem to understand perfectly. In a way I love to hear these "horror" stories, because it brings to light what can be chaged, and in a way it's like "Oh no, here we go =)"
I am glad you guys vent here. I read, I learn. Petco, or other chains will probably never be perfect, but we can try right?
My GM is getting worried about my meeting the few boss' above her - she is proud that I wanna rock the boat, but I may just sink myself. I have been collecting info about the sand substrate, etc. One of these days BAM, there is going to be a major change - Petco changes the substrate, or I look for new job, LOL!
 
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