Drache613

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Hello,

That is terrific news then, I am very happy for you both!
If she has a mild infection then the Baytril should clear it up pretty quickly. I hope Shenron is feeling
better & gets her appetite back soon also.
Do you have a copy of the blood test you could post? The uric acid levels most of the time should be
3-4mg/dl for normal function. If the levels are low that can indicate a vitamin or mineral deficiency, or
dehydration. In some cases, low kidney function can be a precursor for gout, yes. In later stages, the
uric acid levels are high, which indicates compromised kidneys & or renal failure in some cases.
Gout or septic arthritis are usually caused by a lot of the same issues & often go hand in hand together.
Let us know how she is doing.

Tracie
 

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Hello,

That is terrific news then, I am very happy for you both!
If she has a mild infection then the Baytril should clear it up pretty quickly. I hope Shenron is feeling
better & gets her appetite back soon also.
Do you have a copy of the blood test you could post? The uric acid levels most of the time should be
3-4mg/dl for normal function. If the levels are low that can indicate a vitamin or mineral deficiency, or
dehydration. In some cases, low kidney function can be a precursor for gout, yes. In later stages, the
uric acid levels are high, which indicates compromised kidneys & or renal failure in some cases.
Gout or septic arthritis are usually caused by a lot of the same issues & often go hand in hand together.
Let us know how she is doing.

Tracie
Hi Tracie,
I was told the uric levels were okay but I don’t know what the blood work said specifically.
Awaiting my copy of her blood work. I emailed them for it on Thursday so hopefully I get it back soon, I’ll post once I have it!
 

Drache613

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Hello,

Great, thanks. I will definitely look them over once you post them.
How is she doing today?

Tracie
 

Tay1Day

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Shenron
Hello,

Great, thanks. I will definitely look them over once you post them.
How is she doing today?

Tracie
Tracie,
I hope these show up well. She’s doing okay, she has her ups and downs. She’s moving around more but still only taking critical care. No interest in salads and will only eat super worms. She’s not interested in her BSFL or her silkworms. She has two subcutaneous antibiotics left before she’s done with them. Not sure when they’ll want her back in for a recheck. Let me know what you think of her results. I’ve shared with another herp vet and he said he was concerned about the elevated basophils, but that everything else looked okay.
 

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Drache613

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Hello!

Yes thanks, I was able to see the blood tests. It is hard when they have good & bad days but hopefully
soon she will have more good than bad! The antibiotics might be upsetting her system also. The basophils
are a little high. That can indicate some thyroid issues, meaning it isn't producing quite enough thyroid
hormone. That could be one reason why she isn't real active right now.
The AST (liver enzymes), calcium, & Uric acid (kidney readings) are all good. Overall the report isn't bad
at all.
Keep trying with the other insects & salads/greens, hopefully she will start eating more soon.

Tracie
 

Tay1Day

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Shenron
Hello!

Yes thanks, I was able to see the blood tests. It is hard when they have good & bad days but hopefully
soon she will have more good than bad! The antibiotics might be upsetting her system also. The basophils
are a little high. That can indicate some thyroid issues, meaning it isn't producing quite enough thyroid
hormone. That could be one reason why she isn't real active right now.
The AST (liver enzymes), calcium, & Uric acid (kidney readings) are all good. Overall the report isn't bad
at all.
Keep trying with the other insects & salads/greens, hopefully she will start eating more soon.

Tracie
Thank you for the insight, Tracie. I'll talk to her vet about potential hypothyroidism. How is that generally treated? I see that iodine supplements can be used for that, either orally or intravenously.
Her energy levels lately have been much lower than before, but I suspect that's from her antibiotics. She has no interest in food and barely moves/holds her head up. I'm really concerned. I am continuing critical care at night if I see that she has not touched her salad or is not interested in bugs. I'm at a loss, and it's so hard to see her so lethargic and lifeless. She cuddled up with me last night after lights off, and seemed a little perkier but she tends to perk up out of her enclosure - likely because she feels the need to be more alert I guess? I just want to help her.
 

Drache613

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Hello,

Yes, antibiotics tend to make them more tired & affects their appetites, too.
There isn't a lot of documentation but you could give rich sources of iodine such as organic kelp,
which is very safe. I would hesitate giving straight thyroid medication without a confirmation on
low thyroid output. I can do more research on the levels to see what else might be able to be done,
should the output be somewhat low.
If you were to use straight iodine, it should be used with care so it doesn't cause dysfunction instead.
There are varying percentages of Iodine, too. Reptiles are sensitive so less is better.
Keep us posted on her!

Tracie
 

Tay1Day

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Shenron
Hello,

Yes, antibiotics tend to make them more tired & affects their appetites, too.
There isn't a lot of documentation but you could give rich sources of iodine such as organic kelp,
which is very safe. I would hesitate giving straight thyroid medication without a confirmation on
low thyroid output. I can do more research on the levels to see what else might be able to be done,
should the output be somewhat low.
If you were to use straight iodine, it should be used with care so it doesn't cause dysfunction instead.
There are varying percentages of Iodine, too. Reptiles are sensitive so less is better.
Keep us posted on her!

Tracie
Tracie,
Thank you! Bringing her back in tomorrow to figure out what's up with her. I appreciate all of your help :)
 

Drache613

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Hello,

You are very welcome. Let us know how things go at the vet visit. I hope she is feeling better.
It may take some time to get levels up, but keep at it.

Tracie
 

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