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I had two beardies both brought at the same time last year, Sadly one of the two passed away 7 months ago and I was left with one. I was looking to get her another dragon but the size issue was a problem as no where seemed to have any females who was larger then a hatchling.

On friday my gf brought me a 2 year old female from our local reptile shop. I let both of them meet each other outside the viv and then put them in. They was alright for a few hours before the new Female started head bobbing. I thought they might have made a mistake in regards to her gender. My original female did some arm waving and since then has started head bobbing aswell. She now is also attacking the new female and has managed to grab her tail a couple of time. I was told by the shop that would have a fight for dominance and after that they would settle. The new female is showing no signs of aggresion by my first dragon just wont stop with the attacks.

The new female is now hiding for most the day.

Any suggestions guys

Thanks

Jamie
 

catUK

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Everyone will tell you beardies should not be housed together- they are not social animals. That was bad advice from your pet shop. Separate them before the submissive female gets seriously hurt, or worse. They wont stop fighting until one of them gets killed- sorry to say.
 

TwistedCrayon

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Separate them.... No living thing deserves to be attacked. Even if death doesn't ensue she could lose her tail. Still not a good outcome. Dragons only need and want human companions. Either get a new set-up or return the new one. Better yet offer her to someone on this board if you can't make or don't have room for her new enclosure. The pet store you got her from gave you some seriously wrong information.
 

Twobeardieguy

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Jamie I agree they are solitary reptiles and do best on their own. Again putting them together can lead to many of babies and death. Good luck and keep us posted.
 

jsimpson1989

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Its very hard decision, I Obviously dont want to see any harm come to either of them. My original female has seemed a bit calmer today. Had to take the main log out so they could both be on a lower level and have full vision on each other.

I would happily get another viv but the bills for the electricity is ridiculous atm and i wont be able to afford the bills. Does anyone have any ideas how i can drastically cut my bills down. I live in London so its quite cold here atm. I have the UV Bulb on for 12 hours per day and the heater is on at a constant temperture. Is there any work that can be done to cut the bills down?

Its a 4ft x 4ft x 2ft Wooden Vivarium.

I do have space in my room for another Viv just the bills really need to be sorted or i will have to return her which i dont wanna do having lost a bit of faith in my pet shop

Thanks
 

TwistedCrayon

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I didn't see you mention a basking light..., how much did you pay for her? Can you post a pic, where do you live? maybe someone here can help you out with her living situation.
 

catUK

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jsimpson1989":1awqsake said:
Its very hard decision, I Obviously dont want to see any harm come to either of them. My original female has seemed a bit calmer today. Had to take the main log out so they could both be on a lower level and have full vision on each other.

I would happily get another viv but the bills for the electricity is ridiculous atm and i wont be able to afford the bills. Does anyone have any ideas how i can drastically cut my bills down. I live in London so its quite cold here atm. I have the UV Bulb on for 12 hours per day and the heater is on at a constant temperture. Is there any work that can be done to cut the bills down?

Its a 4ft x 4ft x 2ft Wooden Vivarium.

I do have space in my room for another Viv just the bills really need to be sorted or i will have to return her which i dont wanna do having lost a bit of faith in my pet shop

Thanks

Theres nothing really you can do about about electricity. however, i live in newcastle upon tyne and have to keep the heater on at night too- i use a habistat controller which means you can turn the heat down to a comfortable setting for your beardie at night- (they like cooler temps at night anyway), which may save a little bit on electricity.
 

jsimpson1989

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Ive been using a heat lamp which was directed onto a piece of wood for a basking spot but changed that round today to a infra red bulb which my beardy seemed to enjoy. The submissive female decided to stick up for herself today, she pushed my beardy out of the basking spot. they seem to be getting along better atm. I am in revising all week so im sitting next to then so I can keep an eye on them, so i will see how things pan out with them two this week as the behaviour between the pair of them has improved.

Ty
 

jsimpson1989

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Is that the thermistat with a day and night temp or do you manually change it in the evening for the lower temp?
 

catUK

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jsimpson1989":39urygiq said:
Is that the thermistat with a day and night temp or do you manually change it in the evening for the lower temp?

I manually turn it down at night
 

jsimpson1989

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Hi guys

Ty for the advice, they both seem to be getting along great. No fights :).
Thanks
Jamie
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catUK

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Im sorry to sound blunt but honestly they will fight again- theres been loads of posts about beardies seriously injured or killed when housed together even though they 'seemed ok'. I understand that you want to keep them together but just be prepared for what will happen. Sorry to sound negative, don't mean to be, just worried for your beardies :(
 

ziggy23

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I agree, it's just a matter of time before they fight again. Then you'll have to worry about the expense of vet bills.

Even without fighting, there are other passive bullying behavior that's going on that will effect the overall health of the animals. The dominant one is always on guard trying to protect it's territory, and never gets to relax. The submissive one will never get enough to eat, uv or basking time and is under constant threat of attack.

It's really not a good idea.
 

BeardedDragon6

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I do think yo should not put them together, as the old female you had is protecting her territory by chasing the other female off ..
 

boxerLvr

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I don't mean to sound rude so forgive me please if thats how it comes off. You came on the board to get advice, and some VERY experienced beardie owners have told you not to put them together as they are solitary animals... why would you not listen to them? Your beardies safety and health is at stake here and it makes me sad :(
 
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