AHBD":2urn02h2 said:The O.P wants a few babies, hence the Q about keeping some, disposing of some.
kingofnobbys":10iq8xd6 said:AHBD":10iq8xd6 said:The O.P wants a few babies, hence the Q about keeping some, disposing of some.
That's do-able …. all a matter of timing , I'm not sure how long it takes for bearded dragon embryos to develop a brain that can sense pain …. perhaps a reptile biologist will know that answer. I'm pretty sure that happens within the first 1-2 weeks of development But I'm not entirely sure, I Did find this good article on how to care for eggs and hatchlings though. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjAoI_l6ezcAhVJMd8KHcsQDmAQFjAAegQIBxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lllreptile.com%2Farticles%2F154-reproductive-biology-of-bearded-dragons%2F&usg=AOvVaw3HU-vOH6doooJ1utrhmhw6
Personally - I'd let the female produce a clutch of eggs and incubate and hatch the eggs, choose the best few as hold backs and sell or adopt out the remaining hatchlings at about 6 weeks old. IMO I Wouldn't start selling babies until they are around 6-8 inches of length because as the OP said, They have friends who want beardies, They have done their research right? (I Recommend them checking out this website) But Babies of 6-8 inches of length would be easier to care for then tiny, new, and VERY fragile hatchlings which need lots and lots of care some new owners may not be able to provide all the time. Just My Opinion.
I'm new, but my BF has years of experience, and I've been doing a ton of research on new information. He has also bred feeder crickets, and we're to start breeding super worms.kingofnobbys":2alz693v said:What you have is big step up from raw beginner and will be intense and hectic..
anyalyssa":3nivjuj6 said:I'm new, but my BF has years of experience, and I've been doing a ton of research on new information. He has also bred feeder crickets, and we're to start breeding super worms.kingofnobbys":3nivjuj6 said:What you have is big step up from raw beginner and will be intense and hectic..
<<< I suggest he only uses superworms as treats , and breeds silkworms as an alternative staple feeder insect , they are much more nutritious than superworms .
A know of several beardie breeders (here in NSW, Vic, QLD and SA) who breed silkworms as feeders (and harvest and hatch silkworm eggs by the 10,000s to feed their hatchlings , as well as woodies (a form of roach) and crickets as feeders.
Between his knowledge and my research abilities, we should be just fine. I've got the time and money, he's got the dedication and makes a great teacher, and we'll have the space in a years time.
anyalyssa":2s9o1blk said:I said I don't want to get into commercial breeding, and right now, that's true because I can't do that where I'm living. But my boyfriend admitted to me that we wants to get back into it when we move next year, because we'll have the space.
By random chance, the closest Repticon to us happened this past weekend. After lots of careful consideration and reviewing of our finances, we made some adjustments and he made some sacrifices. Good idea, Talk to the experienced breeders for good advice on breeding.
I had a setup ready for a 4th dragon because I really want a pure white dragon, but true weros are expensive are hard to come by. Those ones are gorgeousWeros are a cross between a witblits and a zero (and a zero is a all white dragon as well).
The enclosure we had set aside for him to get a pied ball python was made into a 5th dragon enclosure, and we brought home a breeding pair from lines specifically bred to create weros.
Since it will be 18 months before we can even think of breeding them, we'll already have moved into a bigger place by then and be able to accommodate breeding dragons.
As turns out, all 3 of the dragons we already have posses some really unique and highly desired visual traits, although we don't know their lineage, which is another reason I didn't want to breed them commercially, because I can't tell you any flaws they might have. But the breeder we bought from this weekend past is interested in buying for a pet if we breed my hypo, since he's quite certain it will make visually stunning babies.
And I was correct on my pink and yellow hypo being female, and BF's citrus tiger blue bar being male. The one we were quite certain was male, is female. I would call her a "common", but she's actually a genetic stripe! My First beardie, Cisco is a Citrus tiger sandfire with possible het trans(or hypo, I can never remember which).
The two we just bought home come from established lines that were started from other established lines. I can get the history on these two, and I know that between them they posses the genetics for hypo, trans, zero, and witblit. Oh cool, Those would make some pretty pricey babies, What breeder did they come from?
The male is stunning. He's yellow/white cream color with silvery purplish bars amid charcoal grayish spots and whirls. He's het for hypo and witblit.
The female looks like a common, expect with pink spots instead of orange, and each pink spot has a tiny black dot in the middle. Her head is more yellowish with pink notes. She's het for trans and zero. Those both sound great, I Hope you can produce the weros you're hoping for.
(I could be backwards on which dragon has which traits, it's written down somewhere)
I Do agree though, It seems like it would be a very hectic thing for a new herper.kingofnobbys":2s9o1blk said:My are you going to have your hands full and have some interesting dragon interactions ?
…. most beardies I've ever had at one time is 3 , but I also had 3 pet skinks at the same time as well , and so I was pretty busy, caring for everyone and giving everyone enough attention.
Good thing I'm retired and can give my scaly 4 legged buddies the time and attention they all deserve (and demand).
What you have is big step up from raw beginner and will be intense and hectic.
I'd be looking at breeding my own feeders and only buying insects to start off or make up for periods when you are running low.
kingofnobbys":3inmkgjy said:<<< I suggest he only uses superworms as treats , and breeds silkworms as an alternative staple feeder insect , they are much more nutritious than superworms .
A know of several beardie breeders (here in NSW, Vic, QLD and SA) who breed silkworms as feeders (and harvest and hatch silkworm eggs by the 10,000s to feed their hatchlings , as well as woodies (a form of roach) and crickets as feeders.
HippieLizards":1wsgh2lj said:]Those ones are gorgeousWeros are a cross between a witblits and a zero (and a zero is a all white dragon as well).
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