PLEASEEE HELP!!!!! I think my baby beardie is dying!!!

shmoomunchkin

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Scooby
Yes, I’m in Florida. I was able to order off of the Dubia website and I just ordered the BSFL, horn worms and super worms they’ll be here in a few days I didn’t order the roaches because I’m not too fond of roaches lol and like you said they can become invasive. I have tried maiming the crickets today but he showed no interested and he seems to only want to eat the warms for now, I’m just glad he’s finally eating. I’m going to try the crickets again tomorrow to see if I have any luck, he seems to be heading in the right direction and gaining more energy since receiving the new ubv and since I’ve been keeping him hydrated.
Discord roaches for your guy!
 

Axil

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Beardie name(s)
Beebz
Yes, I’m in Florida. I was able to order off of the Dubia website and I just ordered the BSFL, horn worms and super worms they’ll be here in a few days I didn’t order the roaches because I’m not too fond of roaches lol and like you said they can become invasive. I have tried maiming the crickets today but he showed no interested and he seems to only want to eat the warms for now, I’m just glad he’s finally eating. I’m going to try the tickets again tomorrow to see if I have any luck.
Sounds good. Hopefully the hornworms don't arrive too large. They grow super fast, but I think dubairoaches ships the smallst size as eggs so hopefully they will be small when you get them. Don't feed him a bunch of them at a time. They are loaded with water and too many will give you the opposite problem you had before. Overhydration, leading to diarrhea.

The superworms are similar to your mealworms in that they are high in fat. They also are hard to digest for some dragons. So again, moderation and make sure everything your putting in is coming out digested. Not saying don't feed them. Beebz loves them, just things to keep in mind.

Crossing my fingers your guy will like the BSFL. They are a high protein feeder and he definitely needs somthing with a high protein content (cricket/roach/BSFL) which should make up the majority of the insects he consumes. They are also very high in calcium. So I make a point not to dust them as they are already at the calcium/phosphorus ratio dusting is meant to achieve.

I don't think dusting has been brought up in this thread. Insect feeders should sometimes be lightly dusted to promote bone health and allow your dragon to grow properly. Calcium deficiency can cause soft bones and skeletal problems. Calcium powder is available with and without d3.

The d3 vitamin is necessary for calcium absorption. This is why most milk people drink is fortified with d3. Your dragon is capable of synthesizing d3 from the uvb your t5ho light is providing. Good job fixing that! Oral d3 is just supplementary.

I follow the dosing schedule recommended to me by @KarrieRee . Cal w/d3 5x per week dusted lightly at only one feeding. This will change in a year as your dragon's dietary needs change.

Sorry this seems to have turned into a bit of an essay when the most important thing I wanted to say was good job finding food options for your little guy =)
 

MushuMiami

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Update: So he did poo today and it seems to be normal, I’ll attach a pic below. He did eat about 2 crickets and 1 super worm but he doesn’t have much of an appetite still, but he has been super active and alert today. He is also shedding, could this be be contributing to his lack of appetite? Or maybe he no longer has an interest in crickets anymore? I don’t want to continue giving him meal worms since I’m told they cause impaction. On another note I have been keeping him hydrated with water throughout today and he is starting to learn to drink from the water bowl on his own. We are still waiting on the BSFL to come in the mail and I am looking into buying the discoid roaches as well.
 

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xp29

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Sounds like you've turned the corner, that's fantastic. And yes shedding can effect their appetite.
 

KarrieRee

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Hiccup he is 6 and Blaze is 4
Update: So he did poo today and it seems to be normal, I’ll attach a pic below. He did eat about 2 crickets and 1 super worm but he doesn’t have much of an appetite still, but he has been super active and alert today. He is also shedding, could this be be contributing to his lack of appetite? Or maybe he no longer has an interest in crickets anymore? I don’t want to continue giving him meal worms since I’m told they cause impaction. On another note I have been keeping him hydrated with water throughout today and he is starting to learn to drink from the water bowl on his own. We are still waiting on the BSFL to come in the mail and I am looking into buying the discoid roaches as well.
He could be a roach guy - some pick what they like between the roaches and the crickets- the roaches are a better option -- here is a website for discoid roaches High Quality Discoid Roaches
Hes eating and active that is good -
 

MushuMiami

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Sounds good. Hopefully the hornworms don't arrive too large. They grow super fast, but I think dubairoaches ships the smallst size as eggs so hopefully they will be small when you get them. Don't feed him a bunch of them at a time. They are loaded with water and too many will give you the opposite problem you had before. Overhydration, leading to diarrhea.

The superworms are similar to your mealworms in that they are high in fat. They also are hard to digest for some dragons. So again, moderation and make sure everything your putting in is coming out digested. Not saying don't feed them. Beebz loves them, just things to keep in mind.

Crossing my fingers your guy will like the BSFL. They are a high protein feeder and he definitely needs somthing with a high protein content (cricket/roach/BSFL) which should make up the majority of the insects he consumes. They are also very high in calcium. So I make a point not to dust them as they are already at the calcium/phosphorus ratio dusting is meant to achieve.

I don't think dusting has been brought up in this thread. Insect feeders should sometimes be lightly dusted to promote bone health and allow your dragon to grow properly. Calcium deficiency can cause soft bones and skeletal problems. Calcium powder is available with and without d3.

The d3 vitamin is necessary for calcium absorption. This is why most milk people drink is fortified with d3. Your dragon is capable of synthesizing d3 from the uvb your t5ho light is providing. Good job fixing that! Oral d3 is just supplementary.

I follow the dosing schedule recommended to me by @KarrieRee . Cal w/d3 5x per week dusted lightly at only one feeding. This will change in a year as your dragon's dietary needs change.

Sorry this seems to have turned into a bit of an essay when the most important thing I wanted to say was good job finding food options for your little guy =)
I definitely appreciate the essay I’m learning a ton, thank you! The calcium I have contains d3 so I’ll purchase one that doesn’t contain it so I have one with and without d3.

I’m currently waiting on a shipment that contains other feeders so hopefully that will strike up an appetite for him.
 

KarrieRee

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Hiccup he is 6 and Blaze is 4
I definitely appreciate the essay I’m learning a ton, thank you! The calcium I have contains d3 so I’ll purchase one that doesn’t contain it so I have one with and without d3.

I’m currently waiting on a shipment that contains other feeders so hopefully that will strike up an appetite for him.
You wont need the calcium w/ out D3 till hes about a year old - he needs the D3 till then -
 

KarrieRee

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Hiccup he is 6 and Blaze is 4
It is quite small but he is super tiny, he fits in the palm of my hand. He does look much bigger than he actually is in the picture. The poop was about the size of a pinky finger. Should it be bigger?
Dragons will poop out what they input in -- so if its a small amount its gonna be small
 

Lyrebird.Rainwing

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Beardie name(s)
Swordtail
It is quite small but he is super tiny, he fits in the palm of my hand. He does look much bigger than he actually is in the picture. The poop was about the size of a pinky finger. Should it be bigger?
Ah, I guess it was just the angle or something, poo is good then
 

Axil

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Beardie name(s)
Beebz
Update: So he did poo today and it seems to be normal, I’ll attach a pic below. He did eat about 2 crickets and 1 super worm but he doesn’t have much of an appetite still, but he has been super active and alert today. He is also shedding, could this be be contributing to his lack of appetite? Or maybe he no longer has an interest in crickets anymore? I don’t want to continue giving him meal worms since I’m told they cause impaction. On another note I have been keeping him hydrated with water throughout today and he is starting to learn to drink from the water bowl on his own. We are still waiting on the BSFL to come in the mail and I am looking into buying the discoid roaches as well.
That's great news. Glad he got a couple crickets in him. The protein should make him feel better and hopefully lead to more eating. The shedding definitely messes with their appetites. I've found Beebz seems most affected the day or two leading up to actually shedding, but i don't know if that's typical or a Beebz thing.

I'm jealous you managed to teach him to drink from a bowl! The most Beebz has done is lay in the water, and rarely enough that I'm not even sure he does it on purpose. Don't be surprised if he starts taking less water once he's caught up on hydration. Especially if you manage to get him to eat any veggies. They don't always drink a ton. Definitely keep offering though. He'll let you know when he's done by letting it drip off him and giving you a sour look. At least this is Beebz response to most of my offerings of water on his snout.

Glad he pooped! As mentioned you shouldn't expect a lot as he hasn't eaten a lot. You don't have to totally give up on the mealworms. I would offer higher protein feeders first though. super worms have tougher chiten than mealworms but less of it. They are lower in fat than mealworms but still have enough that you want to make sure he gets something with more protein regularly. It's also totally fine if you're done with mealworms, there are only so many different insects you can reasonably keep on hand. Find the ones that work for you and your Dragon.

Personally I feed the protein first (normally either BSFL or Dubia, though Beebz loves crickets on the occasions i have them) and offer 1-3 superworms at the end of each feeding. This is a small amount compared to the protein feeders he eats. Then he gets 1 hornworm, which he will literally run across the enclosure and bang his nose against the glass for if I let him see the container before i get it out.

This is just an example, and I may be overfeeding. Sadly there are no FDA guidelines for dragon macros so I do the research and do the best I can :).

Glad your guy is eating again and hope you have good luck with the new feeders you have on the way!
 

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