We rescued our Eva a couple of weeks ago from a less than ideal home. Prior to her living with us I have almost no information on her husbandry or diet.
She came with an enclosure, 29x11, suitable for babies and small juveniles. She is ready to upgrade I believe, however please forgive me in being hesitant to do so as I don’t believe she has long with us due to gout.
My question actually has more to do with timing, and is it common for this to happen so rapidly?
Saturday 4/23 - happy happy! Eating like crazy, zooming around the house, alert, gaping. Happy!
We came home from an evening event to find her cage trashed. Salad everywhere.
Sunday 4/24 - alert but not very hungry. Tried dubia both morning and evening but no interest. Also didn’t touch salad.
Monday 4/25 - not hungry in the morning, took outside for some real sunshine (was over 80 that day) and noticed her back right leg wasn’t working quite right. Concerned with her lack of eating and MBD, contacted vet.
Tuesday 4/26 - interest in food came back but walking was getting worse. I would have to put roaches right in front of her to get her to eat.
Wednesday 4/27 - vet day! Vet did X-rays to confirm that there was no MBD, said she is 101g, and that the inside of her mouth is pale. Said underweight and dehydrated. Laid out a plan of daily baths, water via syringe, and continue feeding as is. Eating normal but still not walking. Would walk a very short distance to hunt a roach but if it got too far she would stop. Also took fecal sample (waiting on results)
Thursday 4/28 - noticed front left arm was swollen. Went back over photos taken over the week and saw it was normal until this point. Upon closer inspection the back leg ankles were also swollen, but the arm was definitely the worst.
Friday 4/29 - read about gout online and am convinced this is the issue. Did not feed dubias at all as it says protein will make it worse. At this point it was too late in the day to get ahold of the vet.
Today I ran out and got her some tart Cherry extract capsules and mixed a little with butternut squash baby food. She ate maybe one bite of her salad and I wanted to make sure she got some in her.
Is it typical for it to go from no symptoms to euthanasia likely in less than 5 days? It seems so fast!
FAQ:
Enclosure - 29W x 11d x 18h
Basking - 105-115 (she will gape so I don’t think it’s too cold but not all the time so probably not too hot either)
Lighting - reptisun 10.8 T8, the lid of the tank is wide mesh but we also cut holes in the mesh under the bulb. This bulb was replaced Tuesday, as I am not sure how long it has been used by her prior owner, and it has previously been on a finer mesh lid, which we replaced.
Substrate - linoleum, was to be replaced with slate tile when she upgraded to a larger tank. Her entire setup was to be temporary, intended to upgrade this weekend, but are holding.
Food - dubia roaches from ABDragons, fed flukers orange crystals and carrots. Salads are various greens (collard, mustard) as well as carrots, apples, grapes, although not all at the same time. (Grapes or apples for example)
Getting her to drink water is tough. She won’t drink in the bath or from a bowl. I drip water on her nose and that is hit or miss if she will take it, but we try as often as we can.
I know that realistically that euthanasia is probably coming this week, but I am so heartbroken because we just got her and she is so sweet. I have had beardies before and have never even heard of gout!
I really thought we could rehab her but it seems likely that this was already going on before we rescued her
I am attaching two photos, one from Monday and one from today.
She came with an enclosure, 29x11, suitable for babies and small juveniles. She is ready to upgrade I believe, however please forgive me in being hesitant to do so as I don’t believe she has long with us due to gout.
My question actually has more to do with timing, and is it common for this to happen so rapidly?
Saturday 4/23 - happy happy! Eating like crazy, zooming around the house, alert, gaping. Happy!
We came home from an evening event to find her cage trashed. Salad everywhere.
Sunday 4/24 - alert but not very hungry. Tried dubia both morning and evening but no interest. Also didn’t touch salad.
Monday 4/25 - not hungry in the morning, took outside for some real sunshine (was over 80 that day) and noticed her back right leg wasn’t working quite right. Concerned with her lack of eating and MBD, contacted vet.
Tuesday 4/26 - interest in food came back but walking was getting worse. I would have to put roaches right in front of her to get her to eat.
Wednesday 4/27 - vet day! Vet did X-rays to confirm that there was no MBD, said she is 101g, and that the inside of her mouth is pale. Said underweight and dehydrated. Laid out a plan of daily baths, water via syringe, and continue feeding as is. Eating normal but still not walking. Would walk a very short distance to hunt a roach but if it got too far she would stop. Also took fecal sample (waiting on results)
Thursday 4/28 - noticed front left arm was swollen. Went back over photos taken over the week and saw it was normal until this point. Upon closer inspection the back leg ankles were also swollen, but the arm was definitely the worst.
Friday 4/29 - read about gout online and am convinced this is the issue. Did not feed dubias at all as it says protein will make it worse. At this point it was too late in the day to get ahold of the vet.
Today I ran out and got her some tart Cherry extract capsules and mixed a little with butternut squash baby food. She ate maybe one bite of her salad and I wanted to make sure she got some in her.
Is it typical for it to go from no symptoms to euthanasia likely in less than 5 days? It seems so fast!
FAQ:
Enclosure - 29W x 11d x 18h
Basking - 105-115 (she will gape so I don’t think it’s too cold but not all the time so probably not too hot either)
Lighting - reptisun 10.8 T8, the lid of the tank is wide mesh but we also cut holes in the mesh under the bulb. This bulb was replaced Tuesday, as I am not sure how long it has been used by her prior owner, and it has previously been on a finer mesh lid, which we replaced.
Substrate - linoleum, was to be replaced with slate tile when she upgraded to a larger tank. Her entire setup was to be temporary, intended to upgrade this weekend, but are holding.
Food - dubia roaches from ABDragons, fed flukers orange crystals and carrots. Salads are various greens (collard, mustard) as well as carrots, apples, grapes, although not all at the same time. (Grapes or apples for example)
Getting her to drink water is tough. She won’t drink in the bath or from a bowl. I drip water on her nose and that is hit or miss if she will take it, but we try as often as we can.
I know that realistically that euthanasia is probably coming this week, but I am so heartbroken because we just got her and she is so sweet. I have had beardies before and have never even heard of gout!
I really thought we could rehab her but it seems likely that this was already going on before we rescued her
I am attaching two photos, one from Monday and one from today.