Blood Near Stool!

This forum is for urgent health concerns, where your beardie seems very ill and you need immediate help!

Blood Near Stool!

Postby Viperbsd » Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:59 am

Hi there,

I've had my baby girl, Ahsoka, since September 8th of last year. She's had Coccidia before, but she was treated for that and cleared. I fed her 20 crickets the other day, and since then she hasn't made a solid stool. I have pictures of the stool, that I will attach to this thread, I just need to know how.

Today, she made a liquid stool with a few drops of blood to the side, and that has me very concerned that she has internal bleeding. She jumps off my bed sometimes, so I am not sure if that has anything to do with it.

She is in a 40 gallon tank, and she has a tube UVB light that goes from one end of the vivarium to the other. This was approved by my vet. I am in college and I live on the second floor, so a 50 gallon tank is out of the option; I cant risk hurting myself. I had moved back down to South Florida for the Summer, and when I moved back up to Orlando, I realized I left the digital thermometer down south. I figured that since the heating was good down there, around 107-111 F, I wouldn't need thermometer. Apparently, I did. I just checked the Temperature with an infrared thermo, and it was in the 80s! NOT GOOD!

I feed her Greens every sometimes, when I get the chance to go to the grocery store. She is a bit overweight, so I think I need to up her greens.
Viperbsd
Newbie Poster
 
Posts: 20
Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:51 pm
- Advertisement -
- Advertisement -

Re: Blood Near Stool!

Postby AHBD » Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:43 am

Hi there, she might not have digested the food properly with the lower temps. It's not going to be internal bleeding from jumping off the bed. Here's how to post pics, post one of your dragon as well as the set up + the poo :

https://www.beardeddragon.org/useruploads/ Then use the XIMG to upload
AHBD
BD.org Sicko
 
Posts: 25680
Joined: Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:20 am

Re: Blood Near Stool!

Postby Viperbsd » Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:46 am

[Click image to enlarge]


I just bought a 150 Watt bulb to see if that helps her out.
Viperbsd
Newbie Poster
 
Posts: 20
Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:51 pm

Re: Blood Near Stool!

Postby AHBD » Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:04 pm

Give it some time to see how her next couple of poos look, if the blood is consistent then a vet check would be a good idea. BTW, adult dragons do best with about 100F as the top basking spot. At 111 that would be too hot.
AHBD
BD.org Sicko
 
Posts: 25680
Joined: Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:20 am

Re: Blood Near Stool!

Postby Viperbsd » Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:36 pm

[Click image to enlarge]


Also, here is a picture of her side. It almost looks like she has ball in her stomach. I dont know if they are floating ribs or if they are eggs. I can feel them, web I rub her sides.
Viperbsd
Newbie Poster
 
Posts: 20
Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:51 pm

Re: Blood Near Stool!

Postby AHBD » Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:52 pm

She's not overweight at all, actually pretty slim. :) There's no way to tell exactly what you're feeling although eggs can at times feel like there's something rounded under the skin. You don't know what you're feeling for sure though. That being said I can see a small lump near the back of her abdomen, it may or may not be an egg.
AHBD
BD.org Sicko
 
Posts: 25680
Joined: Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:20 am

Re: Blood Near Stool!

Postby Viperbsd » Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:00 am

Update!

Today, she made a solid poop, however, there was still blood. The blood seems to be coming out with the urates, because there is no blood in the stool. Yesterday she urinated (urated?) separate from her stool, and the urate had blood on it. I’m concerned that she is having a urinary issue. Could egg binding cause this? She’s never displayed major signs of wanting to lay, but I’m putting together a lay box just in case.

Here is a picture of the stool she made today.
[Click image to enlarge]
Viperbsd
Newbie Poster
 
Posts: 20
Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:51 pm

Re: Blood Near Stool!

Postby AHBD » Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:37 am

Symptoms of egg binding are extreme lethargy, black beard and looking really sick over all. Your dragon may be looking to lay but nothing indicates egg binding.
AHBD
BD.org Sicko
 
Posts: 25680
Joined: Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:20 am
- Advertisement -
- Advertisement -

Re: Blood Near Stool!

Postby Viperbsd » Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:48 am

AHBD wrote:Symptoms of egg binding are extreme lethargy, black beard and looking really sick over all. Your dragon may be looking to lay but nothing indicates egg binding.


So, what do you think is causing the blood?
Viperbsd
Newbie Poster
 
Posts: 20
Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:51 pm

Re: Blood Near Stool!

Postby AHBD » Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:57 am

They can pass a wee bit of blood just like humans if they're slightly constipated. Does she normally eat veggies or drink any ? In dragons a bit of blood can be from parasites as well .
AHBD
BD.org Sicko
 
Posts: 25680
Joined: Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:20 am

Re: Blood Near Stool!

Postby Viperbsd » Sun Oct 11, 2020 9:22 am

AHBD wrote:They can pass a wee bit of blood just like humans if they're slightly constipated. Does she normally eat veggies or drink any ? In dragons a bit of blood can be from parasites as well .


I feed her veggies sometimes, usually when I don’t have any crickets. I never see her drink. But, she must be drinking since she is urinating. Again, I’m not sure the blood is coming from her intestines. The blood seems to be connected to the pee rather than the stool. Would a UTI cause blood?
Viperbsd
Newbie Poster
 
Posts: 20
Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:51 pm

Re: Blood Near Stool!

Postby AHBD » Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:03 am

Reptiles have a different G.I. system than mammals do, the urate + solid poo all comes out together, not through separate organs. It's doubtful that this small amount of blood is from an infection, but having a vet check her out if this continues for a few more days might give you the answer. For hydration try dripping water on her snout slowly until she begins to drink, that usually works but you have to be patient.
AHBD
BD.org Sicko
 
Posts: 25680
Joined: Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:20 am

Re: Blood Near Stool!

Postby Drache613 » Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:52 pm

Hello,

I would try to get a fecal done on her, if possible to be sure she doesn't have a heavy load
of worms or parasites.
Those bumps could be eggs but it is definitely hard to know for sure. Does she seem to be
straining at all, or are her urates hard or soft?
Since she is an adult, a basking spot of a range or 95-100 is fine.

Tracie
User avatar
Drache613
Moderator
Moderator
 
Posts: 40613
Joined: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:33 pm
Location: May, Texas

Re: Blood Near Stool!

Postby Viperbsd » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:54 am

She can’t seem to catch a break. Her bleeding stopped, but when I was feeding her greens today, she accidentally took a little piece of paper towel instead. Is this going to cause complications?!?!? Now I am really worried.
Viperbsd
Newbie Poster
 
Posts: 20
Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:51 pm

Re: Blood Near Stool!

Postby Viperbsd » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:59 am

[Click image to enlarge]


This is the amount she ate of the paper towel. Hopefully this will pass with her next bowel movement.
Viperbsd
Newbie Poster
 
Posts: 20
Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:51 pm
- Advertisement -
- Advertisement -

Next

Return to Beardie ER

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Kyzer