Beardie Dragging Back Legs During Shed?

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Re: Beardie Dragging Back Legs During Shed?

Postby colleen1999 » Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:47 pm

KarrieRee wrote:No Enemas --https://www.beardeddragon.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=252267
It is best it comes out naturally --- enemas are only the last resort - 3 days is not long enough -- if the back legs gets worse we should let Tracie advise on the subject or AHBD
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Okay! So you wouldn’t recommend the vet then? At least not for awhile if there’s no improvement?
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Re: Beardie Dragging Back Legs During Shed?

Postby KarrieRee » Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:56 pm

Let's see if he goes poop first- we need to let Tracie or ahbd to weigh in on timeline for vet
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Re: Beardie Dragging Back Legs During Shed?

Postby colleen1999 » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:22 am

Update:

Hades had applesauce, black cherry juice and a few drops of olive oil today. Gave him a warm bath and massaged his stomach but still no poop :( he still isn’t using his back legs at all.
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Re: Beardie Dragging Back Legs During Shed?

Postby KarrieRee » Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:05 pm

I am getting some re-inforcements
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Re: Beardie Dragging Back Legs During Shed?

Postby colleen1999 » Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:51 pm

KarrieRee wrote:I am getting some re-inforcements
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Thank you so much!!
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Re: Beardie Dragging Back Legs During Shed?

Postby AHBD » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:14 pm

I'm thinking they look a wee bit swollen. Let's see what Tracie thinks. You can keep feeding him soft food like cooked or grated squash, cooked sweet potato or baby food. Give him a little longer and he should go.
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Re: Beardie Dragging Back Legs During Shed?

Postby colleen1999 » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:39 pm

AHBD wrote:I'm thinking they look a wee bit swollen. Let's see what Tracie thinks. You can keep feeding him soft food like cooked or grated squash, cooked sweet potato or baby food. Give him a little longer and he should go.


Should I be giving him any feeders? Like small crickets? He licks some of the soft food up when it’s put on his nose but doesn’t eat much.
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Re: Beardie Dragging Back Legs During Shed?

Postby AHBD » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:47 pm

I think small crickets would be fine because he still needs protein and I think he will poo soon. Keep offering the soft foods, whatever he'll eat. Give a daily warm soak for about 10 minutes, make it warmer than usual and a little deeper .
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Re: Beardie Dragging Back Legs During Shed?

Postby Drache613 » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:48 pm

Hello,

He is still dragging his back legs or wont use them? There is nothing that would have
impacted him except for the one insect you mentioned? Keep giving the softer foods,
for now to see if that helps out.
Your UVB placement & brand is fine, at 6 or so inches from him. How often are you
giving calcium & are you using plain calcium or calcium with D3?
I do think that there is swelling which is probably going to be gout related. Have you
started him on the black or tart cherry extract?
The cricket gel cubes, can you get the ingredients for me?

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Re: Beardie Dragging Back Legs During Shed?

Postby colleen1999 » Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:58 am

AHBD wrote:I think small crickets would be fine because he still needs protein and I think he will poo soon. Keep offering the soft foods, whatever he'll eat. Give a daily warm soak for about 10 minutes, make it warmer than usual and a little deeper .


He had a few small crickets last night and was still really enthusiastic about eating. Hoping for a poo soon.
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Re: Beardie Dragging Back Legs During Shed?

Postby colleen1999 » Sat Sep 26, 2020 4:07 am

Drache613 wrote:Hello,

He is still dragging his back legs or wont use them? There is nothing that would have
impacted him except for the one insect you mentioned? Keep giving the softer foods,
for now to see if that helps out.
Your UVB placement & brand is fine, at 6 or so inches from him. How often are you
giving calcium & are you using plain calcium or calcium with D3?
I do think that there is swelling which is probably going to be gout related. Have you
started him on the black or tart cherry extract?
The cricket gel cubes, can you get the ingredients for me?

Tracie


He is still dragging his back legs. He had a few mealworms the other day because he likes them as treats. I know they’re not supposed to be fed as a staple, but if they’re rarely fed could they still cause impaction?

The brand of calcium is Repti Calcium. It says that it contains D3. I give it to him once a day usually. The cricket cubes are Flucker’s Orange Cubes.
Ingredients: water, carageenan, soy protein, dried brewer’s yeast, dried kelp, calcium carbonate, potassium sorbate, ascorbic acid, citric acid and yellow #6 food colour. I have started him on the pure black cherry juice. He likes it and drinks it if I put some on his nose with a syringe.
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Re: Beardie Dragging Back Legs During Shed?

Postby colleen1999 » Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:50 am

Update: Still no poop and he seems to be hanging out on the bottom of his cage now. When should I opt for the vet?
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Re: Beardie Dragging Back Legs During Shed?

Postby Drache613 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:16 am

Hello,

I am thinking it would be a good idea to take him in, since he is having trouble with some
swelling of the limbs now. He is probably developing gout, unfortunately.
The reptical has D3, ok. How often are you giving that?
I would discontinue using the flukers orange cubes for a couple of reasons. They contain
calcium, yellow #6 food color (petroleum based) & soy protein which is guaranteed to be
genetically modified which wreaks havoc on the kidneys & liver. Just use a large sponge
& keep it wet/moist to water your crickets, or layers of paper towels, etc. You can also look
into a cricket watering system with a sponge donut which fits around it inside the water ring
reservoir to keep them from drowning.
Many times, too much supplementation & preservatives from commercialized foods are hard
on them & can be harmful to their health, just like in humans.
That is great you were able to get some black cherry juice & that he likes it. You can give
,5ml to 1ml daily, either straight or diluted with water.
Do you have a vet you can get him to?

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Re: Beardie Dragging Back Legs During Shed?

Postby KarrieRee » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:24 am

Hers a website to find a vet
www.arav.org
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Re: Beardie Dragging Back Legs During Shed?

Postby AHBD » Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:28 am

I agree with Tracie 100%, I never use the cricket quencher, a large slice of potato, sweet potato or carrot will do. Also a wadded up paper towel that has been wetted down placed in a plastic lid from a jar for hydration. Replace the paper towel every few days as it gets soiled. Avoid the sponge, the crickets will poop all over it and females will lay eggs in it.
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