Lethargic baby beardie

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Lethargic baby beardie

Postby LoraLizard » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:18 pm

I have 2 baby beardies i plan on separating by next week. One of them is great, healthy, running around and eating good, and i can already see she is getting bigger. The other one is more tired, i see her running in the tank hunting for crickets but she never goes for worms (she went for worms once and the other beardie took it from her mouth so i think she’s scared now) everytime i pick her up she is very limp and not very interactive like the other one. i also don’t see her eat or poop as often which worries me, by next week i should have them separated so i can really see how much she’s eating compared to the other one. I thought maybe the tank was too cool(usually around 100) but wouldn’t they both be acting the same if the tank wasn’t hot enough? Today i noticed the temp dropped to 85 in their basking spot which i know is way too low, so i switched the bulb and it didn’t change much. i ordered a new thermometer incase mine just isn’t accurate. I’ve been using a 100w heating bulb in a 40 gallon tank, should i go up to 150w?
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Re: Lethargic baby beardie

Postby KarrieRee » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:36 pm

Not till you get a digital probe thermometer-- if you have a pet smart or petco near you go get one- your little one you need to feed separate from the other one - put him in a tote or something small and feed him separately - the other one is already dominating and that is not good -- what are you using for a UVB? NO coils please they are inadequate for a 40 gallon tank -- your going to need two of every thing --- and you will need to keep them from seeing each other as well -- we dont know the sexes yet -- if you need help w/ getting lighting please ask and I will help -- we mostly use long tube fixtures on this forum and that is what we recommend -- if you need help I will help you get those tanks set up so your babies are thriving
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Re: Lethargic baby beardie

Postby LoraLizard » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:41 pm

KarrieRee wrote:Not till you get a digital probe thermometer-- if you have a pet smart or petco near you go get one- your little one you need to feed separate from the other one - put him in a tote or something small and feed him separately - the other one is already dominating and that is not good -- what are you using for a UVB? NO coils please they are inadequate for a 40 gallon tank -- your going to need two of every thing --- and you will need to keep them from seeing each other as well -- we dont know the sexes yet -- if you need help w/ getting lighting please ask and I will help -- we mostly use long tube fixtures on this forum and that is what we recommend -- if you need help I will help you get those tanks set up so your babies are thriving
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I actually just ordered a digital one off amazon and it should be here in 2 days. I just don’t know why the temp shows that it goes up and down sometimes. I put the little one on a rock in his basking spot but he will jump off shortly after and lay on the ground. tHis is the uvb bulb i use [Click image to enlarge]
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Re: Lethargic baby beardie

Postby KarrieRee » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:48 pm

Please get rid of it ---- your going to need two of these for the two tanks
https://www.pangeareptile.com/store/zoo ... vb-t5.html
https://www.pangeareptile.com/store/zoo ... -hood.html this is a 24"
They come w/ 5.0 bulbs you can keep them for a back up the distance is different from the 10.0 bulb -- you need to get these ASAP -- your dragons will quit eating w/ the UVB your using now --
this website I referred you to is my go to place they are fast and they ship Fed Ex and they sell out of these quick --- the basking spot may be too hot we wont know till you get the probe to get that temp - you can go to your local home improvement store and get a infrared heat gun for like $20 - they come in real handy -- you dont need a spendy one--- but we must get your lighting in order first and basking temps to keep your dragons eating - and you need to work on getting them separated
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Re: Lethargic baby beardie

Postby LoraLizard » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:57 pm

KarrieRee wrote:Please get rid of it ---- your going to need two of these for the two tanks
https://www.pangeareptile.com/store/zoo ... vb-t5.html
https://www.pangeareptile.com/store/zoo ... -hood.html this is a 24"
They come w/ 5.0 bulbs you can keep them for a back up the distance is different from the 10.0 bulb -- you need to get these ASAP -- your dragons will quit eating w/ the UVB your using now --
this website I referred you to is my go to place they are fast and they ship Fed Ex and they sell out of these quick --- the basking spot may be too hot we wont know till you get the probe to get that temp - you can go to your local home improvement store and get a infrared heat gun for like $20 - they come in real handy -- you dont need a spendy one--- but we must get your lighting in order first and basking temps to keep your dragons eating - and you need to work on getting them separated
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Would this work? [Click image to enlarge]
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Re: Lethargic baby beardie

Postby KarrieRee » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:58 pm

Yes that is what I posted from pangea-- you have a fixture for that bulb? It needs to be 24"
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Re: Lethargic baby beardie

Postby LoraLizard » Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:06 pm

KarrieRee wrote:Yes that is what I posted from pangea-- you have a fixture for that bulb? It needs to be 24"
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I’m looking for fixtures on petco right now so i can try and pick them up ASAP but no luck so far, i might be better off ordering them. How do these go on the tank?
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Re: Lethargic baby beardie

Postby KarrieRee » Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:09 pm

Petco and Petsmart do carry the fixture but not the size I am recommending they carry 20" I think and 18" and you want a 24" pangea has good prices and they are fast - and shipping is $6.99 -- depending on the tank screen the T 5's have options --- for a fine screen like a screen door it would need to go inside the tank -- for a wide holed screen like a dime it can sit on top both have certain distance for placements --
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Re: Lethargic baby beardie

Postby LoraLizard » Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:17 pm

KarrieRee wrote:Petco and Petsmart do carry the fixture but not the size I am recommending they carry 20" I think and 18" and you want a 24" pangea has good prices and they are fast - and shipping is $6.99 -- depending on the tank screen the T 5's have options --- for a fine screen like a screen door it would need to go inside the tank -- for a wide holed screen like a dime it can sit on top both have certain distance for placements --
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Okay i have the 22” bulb and the 24” fixture in my cart. i have a fine screen on the top of the tank, will i need to buy any additional items in order to set up the light?
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Re: Lethargic baby beardie

Postby KarrieRee » Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:19 pm

Are you getting two of them? No the fixtures and bulbs are all you need for now - I can post how to hang w/ the fine screen -
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Re: Lethargic baby beardie

Postby LoraLizard » Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:36 pm

KarrieRee wrote:Are you getting two of them? No the fixtures and bulbs are all you need for now - I can post how to hang w/ the fine screen -
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Yes i am, can i ask why the other UVB bulb was bad?
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Re: Lethargic baby beardie

Postby KarrieRee » Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:39 pm

Here is some info on UVB's -- I have had more dragons w/ issues w/ people using the coils than I can count and the outcome on some of them have not been good - some people catch it right away and others that dont well its not a good outcome
Which UVB light should I use?
The best UVB light is a ReptiSun 10.0 fluorescent tube HO (Or Arcardia 12% in the UK). Compact or coil bulbs do not emit the proper amount of UVB light for a bearded dragon, and should not be used. Other brands, such as the Zilla Desert Series and ReptiGlo have been known to cause eye problems and other health issues with bearded dragons, and should be avoided. The reason that some UVB lights (Zilla, ReptiGlo, coils/compacts, ect.) are considered dangerous is because the wavelength of UVB that they emit is shorter and more intense than the wavelength of the "safe" lights (ReptiSun, Arcadia). UVB lights should be replaced every 6 months. The T5’s are a strong bulb and only need to be replaced once a year – the T 8 every 6 months--- where as the T 8 are not as strong—they need to be placed inside the tank the T 5 10.0 bulb approx 12-15 inches from basking spot – the T 8 approx 6-8 inches from basking spot—the cover needs to be off the bulb for full effect of the UVB rays--
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Re: Lethargic baby beardie

Postby LoraLizard » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:00 am

KarrieRee wrote:Here is some info on UVB's -- I have had more dragons w/ issues w/ people using the coils than I can count and the outcome on some of them have not been good - some people catch it right away and others that dont well its not a good outcome
Which UVB light should I use?
The best UVB light is a ReptiSun 10.0 fluorescent tube HO (Or Arcardia 12% in the UK). Compact or coil bulbs do not emit the proper amount of UVB light for a bearded dragon, and should not be used. Other brands, such as the Zilla Desert Series and ReptiGlo have been known to cause eye problems and other health issues with bearded dragons, and should be avoided. The reason that some UVB lights (Zilla, ReptiGlo, coils/compacts, ect.) are considered dangerous is because the wavelength of UVB that they emit is shorter and more intense than the wavelength of the "safe" lights (ReptiSun, Arcadia). UVB lights should be replaced every 6 months. The T5’s are a strong bulb and only need to be replaced once a year – the T 8 every 6 months--- where as the T 8 are not as strong—they need to be placed inside the tank the T 5 10.0 bulb approx 12-15 inches from basking spot – the T 8 approx 6-8 inches from basking spot—the cover needs to be off the bulb for full effect of the UVB rays--
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Today i noticed the lethargic beardie has something stuck on her butt area, it looks like it could be poop that’s stuck. i gave her a bath and she drank the water in there. Could this mean she was dehydrated? i’m sure it’s because she hasn’t been eating her veggies
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Re: Lethargic baby beardie

Postby KarrieRee » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:08 am

Yes if shes drinking from the bath she was thristy--- keep offering her water -- either by dripping on her nose or by bath I really dont recommend bathing since you just got them and it stresses them out so bad -- I would try and get them to drink by either dropper or by dripping water on the nose till they stop -- is she eating anything ? I would get some BSFL ordered or try and find them in your pet shops they are also known as nutri grubs phoenix worms or calci worms -- get large and add them to the top of the salads first thing when feeding -- add them in front of her so it gets them to the salad bowl you will need a glass or ceramic bowl - you can order them from here
www.symptonbsf.com do not dust them they are calcium enriched
I can post more websites for worms/ insects here later today
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Re: Lethargic baby beardie

Postby LoraLizard » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:13 am

KarrieRee wrote:Yes if shes drinking from the bath she was thristy--- keep offering her water -- either by dripping on her nose or by bath I really dont recommend bathing since you just got them and it stresses them out so bad -- I would try and get them to drink by either dropper or by dripping water on the nose till they stop -- is she eating anything ? I would get some BSFL ordered or try and find them in your pet shops they are also known as nutri grubs phoenix worms or calci worms -- get large and add them to the top of the salads first thing when feeding -- add them in front of her so it gets them to the salad bowl you will need a glass or ceramic bowl - you can order them from here
http://www.symptonbsf.com do not dust them they are calcium enriched
I can post more websites for worms/ insects here later today
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Right after i gave her water she laid down for a bit and hunted for a cricket and got one, then she laid back down.
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