Beardie hides all day?

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Beardie hides all day?

Postby rhpsp » Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:27 pm

Hi All,

My beardie, Nigel, is approaching 2 years old. For the past two weeks-ish, she has been spending all day in her hide. Days at a time... I have taken her out to eat (she will eat her bugs only, but I found if I place some greens by her mouth when she is chewing, she will eat the greens) but she has not gone to the bathroom. When I take her out to eat, I place her under the basking light and she will bask for a couple of hours, then back to the hide until I take her out again. It is almost like she is brumating...

Her setup has the cool side in the low/mid 80s. Hot side in upper 90s. I have a mercury vapor bulb for her basking, and I have a tube UVB light along the rest of her tank. I turned off the tube light for a couple days to test to see if it was just too bright for her. She still hid.

When I take her out, she is alert.[Click image to enlarge]


Any thoughts/advice?

Thank you so much to this wonderful community! Being a first time beardie owner, the support on this site has been invaluable. I truly appreciate all the help.
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Re: Beardie hides all day?

Postby loljelloclowdz » Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:35 pm

Some beardies brumate in the summer because they are on Australian mode (some hatch that way I guess, despite possibly never even setting foot in the Southern Hemisphere.) Your beardie sounds old enough to brumate, but I’d watch the beard and make sure it’s not black.
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Re: Beardie hides all day?

Postby rhpsp » Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:01 am

Wow! That’s interesting! Thank you for the information. Her beard is not black.

This is the first time she has brumated. Do I need to keep taking her out to feed?
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Re: Beardie hides all day?

Postby KarrieRee » Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:18 am

She could be just be lazy- how far away is the MVB? And its good your using a tube UVB as well - what is the brand and bulb of that and where in the tank is it? It is not uncommon for them to not poop for long periods of time - make sure she is staying hydrated - and if she is eating basking and pooping she should be fine along w/ no black bearding as well --
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Re: Beardie hides all day?

Postby rhpsp » Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:59 am

Hi Karrie,

The MVB is about 10 in from her basking spot. I have the repitsun 10.0 UVB. It is on top of the screen. I have not been able to secure it on the inside. [Click image to enlarge]
Both lights are about 6.5 months.

I gave her a bath this morning and she pooped! Her urates were hard though. It has always been a struggle to keep her hydrated. She doesn't drink when water is dripped on her snout, I provide water in her tank doesn't touch it. I mist her greens multiple times a day. I am ordering some hornworms for her again, hopefully that will keep her hydrated...

I placed her under her basking light after and she is currently basking. I am sure in a couple of hours she will go back in her hide. Seems to be the routine.

Thank again!
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Re: Beardie hides all day?

Postby KarrieRee » Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:12 am

The UVB is a T 8? If so it needs to be inside the tank w/ no clear plastic cover over that bulb and they do expire in 6 months--- you need to hang it approx 6-8 inches from her basking decor directly overhead --- you can use these to hang w/3 M command Velcro fasteners- picture hanging wire – long plastic zip ties-- fishing line -- potted plant wire hangers -- shoe laces -- here is a pic of how someone hung theirs
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Re: Beardie hides all day?

Postby rhpsp » Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:25 am

Thank you for the picture and details on how-to!
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Re: Beardie hides all day?

Postby KarrieRee » Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:40 am

After you get it repositioned watch her behavior and let me know if it changes-
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Re: Beardie hides all day?

Postby rhpsp » Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:56 am

Will do. Thank you Karrie
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Re: Beardie hides all day?

Postby rhpsp » Fri Jul 17, 2020 8:06 am

Hi Karrie,

Just wanted to update. Nigel is back in her hide. No change in behavior. I feed her, put her under the basking light, and in a couple of hours she’s back in her hide.

I did order hornworms to help with hydration. I will continue to take her out every couple of days to keep her fed.

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Re: Beardie hides all day?

Postby KarrieRee » Fri Jul 17, 2020 8:11 am

I didnt catch this earlier but your T 8 is over 6 months old correct? If so its expired - please replace it ASAP-- I would take that piece of log basking decor and lay it down like this
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it looks exactly like my piece -- are you in the states? Another thing I noticed is he on the floor? Please get him off the floor - its cold and drafty and they like to see their surroundings - I had another dragon on here doing the same thing as yours and he too was on the floor once he got moved he quit hiding all the time -- put him on a dresser or stand but please get him off the floor
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Re: Beardie hides all day?

Postby rhpsp » Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:44 am

I ordered a replacement bulb. Should be here today. I am in California. I will get a stand. Thanks for the help.
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Re: Beardie hides all day?

Postby rhpsp » Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:14 pm

Hi,

Just wanted to update. I have changed her UVB and attached it inside the screen, her temps are good but Nigel is still hiding... I have continued to take her out of hiding 1-2x per week to give her some hornworms, dubia, and greens. She will eat, bask for a short bit, then go back into her hide. She has pooped, looks fine.

Is it just brumation? Even though it's summer...

When she is taken out she is alert, no blackbeard, no noticeable weight loss or signs of illness. There was 1 day where after I took her out she was glass surfing a bit, but then went back into her hide. That hasn't happened again.

Any thoughts/advice is appreciated! Thanks again for being such a wonderful community!
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Re: Beardie hides all day?

Postby KarrieRee » Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:18 pm

Your UVB is the correct distance ? Well its just her then if shes eating basking and pooping she should be fine -- she could be getting ready for brumation and just has not gone fully into it -- and not losing weight too --- so keep an eye on her continue to feed her and just watch her and let her do her thing
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Re: Beardie hides all day?

Postby rhpsp » Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:24 pm

Her UVB is ~7in from her basking spot.

Since she's hiding all day, should I turn the light off? My house thermostat is set to 80F so it is not cold in here.

Thanks so much Karrie! I truly appreciate your help!
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