HELP My bearded dragon is dying!!!

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HELP My bearded dragon is dying!!!

Postby sean0529 » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:12 pm

My bearded dragon was completely fine earlier today he is about 5 years old and was eating fine as well as drinking. We noticed later in the day when returning home his whole body excluding his tail was a pale white as if he was shedding but his beard is completely black and upon trying to remove him from the cage he had what seemed to be a seizure. He had multiple of these seizure-like episodes where he would fling his body around uncontrollably. His end of his tail is still regular color and his beard has been black this whole time. I wish there was something I can do there is no reptile vet available near me and I don't know what my options are.
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Re: HELP My bearded dragon is dying!!!

Postby KarrieRee » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:16 pm

What are you using for a UVB? Brand and bulb where in the tank is it is it a coil or a tube? It sounds like calcium defiency- what are his basking temps and how are you taking them? The UVB how old is it? Here is a website to find a vet www.arav.org
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Re: HELP My bearded dragon is dying!!!

Postby sean0529 » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:25 pm

KarrieRee wrote:What are you using for a UVB? Brand and bulb where in the tank is it is it a coil or a tube? It sounds like calcium defiency- what are his basking temps and how are you taking them? The UVB how old is it? Here is a website to find a vet http://www.arav.org
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I'm using a Reptisun 10.0 UVB bulb and it stays next to his heat lamp on the warm side of his cage. I take his temps with a temp gun and I also have a humidity/heat gage on the wall of the cage. His basking spot is usually around 85-95 degrees. He gets calcium with his crickets and worms.
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Re: HELP My bearded dragon is dying!!!

Postby KarrieRee » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:28 pm

Is it a coil or tube? Where in the tank? Tube T 5 or a T 8? Basking temps need to be 95-110-- this UVB is crucial-
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Re: HELP My bearded dragon is dying!!!

Postby sean0529 » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:30 pm

KarrieRee wrote:Is it a coil or tube? Where in the tank? Tube T 5 or a T 8? Basking temps need to be 95-110-- this UVB is crucial-
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I keep it over his basking area where he spends most of his time at. And what do you mean by coil or tube? Its like a light bulb.
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Re: HELP My bearded dragon is dying!!!

Postby KarrieRee » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:36 pm

A light bulb is it a UVB? A tube is a long fixture look on the bulb and tell me the wattage if it's a coil it will say 13 watt or 26 watt--
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Re: HELP My bearded dragon is dying!!!

Postby sean0529 » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:38 pm

KarrieRee wrote:A light bulb is it a UVB? A tube is a long fixture look on the bulb and tell me the wattage if it's a coil it will say 13 watt or 26 watt--
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Reptisun 10.0 UVB
2U-13W AC 120V/60Hz 0.14A

This is what it says on the light bulb, its not a long strip its a uvb light bulb similar to a heat lamp

What I also don't understand is the seizure like episodes that were happening every few minutes, they've since slowed down he's been asleep for hours
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Re: HELP My bearded dragon is dying!!!

Postby sean0529 » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:41 pm

sean0529 wrote:
KarrieRee wrote:A light bulb is it a UVB? A tube is a long fixture look on the bulb and tell me the wattage if it's a coil it will say 13 watt or 26 watt--
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Reptisun 10.0 UVB
2U-13W AC 120V/60Hz 0.14A

This is what it says on the light bulb, its not a long strip its a uvb light bulb similar to a heat lamp

What I also don't understand is the seizure like episodes that were happening every few minutes, they've since slowed down he's been asleep for hours

I also forgot to mention that he struggles to move from place to place its like he holding on to life...
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Re: HELP My bearded dragon is dying!!!

Postby KarrieRee » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:47 pm

Ok those are NO GOOD--- tomorrow I want you to get him out in the sun- let him sit on you for ever how long you can stand the heat 15 minutes of direct sun will equal out to about 4 hrs of UVB-- then I want you to get a 24" fixture w/ a reflector-- and a Reptisun 10 T 5 bulb-- you can look at your petstores for this - or you can go here and order--- http://www.pangeareptiles.com
Look under fixtures there is one there for $32 do not use the bulb that comes w/ it it is not for reptiles-- or get the zoo med that comes w/ a 5.0 bulb save it for back up you need to order the Reptisun 10.0 bulb 22" or a Arcadia 12%bulb they are both really good bulbs-- but you must get him out side for UVB-- at this point if he's been using the coil in a 40+ gallon tank he's basically been getting none-- he has been hiding his illness- he has not been able to absorb his calcium -- I am going to flag your post to Tracie she is a vet tech that can help more she is on at nite
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Re: HELP My bearded dragon is dying!!!

Postby sean0529 » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:50 pm

KarrieRee wrote:Ok those are NO GOOD--- tomorrow I want you to get him out in the sun- let him sit on you for ever how long you can stand the heat 15 minutes of direct sun will equal out to about 4 hrs of UVB-- then I want you to get a 24" fixture w/ a reflector-- and a Reptisun 10 T 5 bulb-- you can look at your petstores for this - or you can go here and order--- http://www.pangeareptiles.com
Look under fixtures there is one there for $32 do not use the bulb that comes w/ it it is not for reptiles-- or get the zoo med that comes w/ a 5.0 bulb save it for back up you need to order the Reptisun 10.0 bulb 22" or a Arcadia 12%bulb they are both really good bulbs-- but you must get him out side for UVB-- at this point if he's been using the coil in a 40+ gallon tank he's basically been getting none-- he has been hiding his illness- he has not been able to absorb his calcium -- I am going to flag your post to Tracie she is a vet tech that can help more she is on at nite
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But he's been fine for so long with the same setup this could really be it? It seems like he's just holding on to life he gets sunlight all the time I'm afraid he may not be around in the morning
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Re: HELP My bearded dragon is dying!!!

Postby KarrieRee » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:53 pm

What kind of sunlight? Outside or thru a window? If outside how long ? If thru a window it is filtered and not enough
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Re: HELP My bearded dragon is dying!!!

Postby sean0529 » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:56 pm

KarrieRee wrote:What kind of sunlight? Outside or thru a window? If outside how long ? If thru a window it is filtered and not enough
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30 minutes of direct sunlight a couple time a week definitely not enough, this is giving me hope that its not the end because it definitely does make sense to be lack of uvb now that you bring all of these things up. The rest of his sunlight is through a window which is multiple times a day but if its not enough because of it being filtered that would make sense as well. I just don't know if he'll be able to make it till the morning he was having a hard time even breathing it seemed like he would open his mouth and be gasping for air at some points and taking big deep breaths then breath shallow at other times. Right now it seems like he's not even breathing but I thought that before and he continued to breath stronger so I'm assuming its him lightly breathing while asleep. His beard is still black.
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Re: HELP My bearded dragon is dying!!!

Postby KarrieRee » Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:03 pm

He is in distress- do you have a heat emitter? It's like a coil that produces no light--- only heat- if you have one turn it on and keep his temps overnite- around 80-- I gave you a website to find a vet in my first post- if you take him to the vet they should do a bloodwork to get calcium levels and maybe an x-ray to check his calcium- if he's not moving that would be mbd--- he could possibly have a RI as well-- use that website I gave you - hopefully you will find one where you are-- if not start making calls to vets in your area and ask if they have experience w/ bearded dragons
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Re: HELP My bearded dragon is dying!!!

Postby sean0529 » Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:07 pm

KarrieRee wrote:He is in distress- do you have a heat emitter? It's like a coil that produces no light--- only heat- if you have one turn it on and keep his temps overnite- around 80-- I gave you a website to find a vet in my first post- if you take him to the vet they should do a bloodwork to get calcium levels and maybe an x-ray to check his calcium- if he's not moving that would be mbd--- he could possibly have a RI as well-- use that website I gave you - hopefully you will find one where you are-- if not start making calls to vets in your area and ask if they have experience w/ bearded dragons
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I have a night lamp with purple light I use occasionally when temperatures in the house are low that I put on him
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Re: HELP My bearded dragon is dying!!!

Postby KarrieRee » Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:15 pm

Ok those are no good either-- they are harmful to the eyes and can cause long term eye damage--- I want you to set your tank up like a hospital tank - you need to get a heating pad put in the tank set it on low- take and cover it w/ a dish towel or small towel etc-- put him on it -- tomorrow you need to work on getting that UVB replaced - and getting him into the vet--- do not use the coil anymore- he's better off getting direct sun at this point and if he has a RI he will need antibiotics- please keep me posted and I am hoping Tracie jumps in here tonite and advised
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