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New Beardie Genitalia Issue

Postby winkydinks » Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:49 am

Hello all,

So I recently bought a beautiful little female trans dragon. Total sweetie, and I love her already.

There is one question/concern I have though. There's a little red bump protruding from her hatch, and I have no idea what it is. Can't seem to find much info addressing this condition online either. Do any of you guys have any experience with this/can tell me more?

I got her from another pet owner who told me that she originally bought her from a breeder who said she had bred once before. However, I know this specific breeder, and the guy is a dishonest scumbag, so I take any info he provides with a large grain of salt. He already lied about this particular dragon to the woman I got her from (told her she was a hypo when she clearly isn't). Regardless, there's a chance she may have bred.

So anyways, does anyone have any ideas regarding what this issue is? Here are some pics. [Click image to enlarge]
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Re: New Beardie Genitalia Issue

Postby CooperDragon » Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:00 pm

That is possibly a prolapse. I suggest keeping it as clean as possible using water and maybe a little betadine. Sometimes offering a cool water bath mixed with sugar will help swelling go down and allow them to retract the tissue. You can try to gently guide it back in but don't be forceful with it. You don't want to damage the tissue. A vet visit is probably in order to address this. In the meantime I would also offer lots of water by dripping on her nose to lick up. Keeping her hydrated should be helpful. I would also avoid offering hard foods that are difficult to pass for a while.

http://www.anapsid.org/prolapse.html
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Re: New Beardie Genitalia Issue

Postby AHBD » Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:03 am

That might actually be a male and the tip of a hemipene sticking out. The info that Cooper gave you would definitely apply to this.
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Re: New Beardie Genitalia Issue

Postby winkydinks » Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:28 am

AHBD wrote:That might actually be a male and the tip of a hemipene sticking out. The info that Cooper gave you would definitely apply to this.

It's definitely female. 100% positive.
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Re: New Beardie Genitalia Issue

Postby AHBD » Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:39 am

Oh O.K. I was throwing that out there because you said the original owner/breeder was untruthful. Have you positively sexed the dragon yourself ?
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Re: New Beardie Genitalia Issue

Postby winkydinks » Fri Apr 03, 2020 12:17 pm

AHBD wrote:Oh O.K. I was throwing that out there because you said the original owner/breeder was untruthful. Have you positively sexed the dragon yourself ?

Yes I have, and this is when I noticed the apparent prolapse. 100% positive she's female.
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Re: New Beardie Genitalia Issue

Postby SandP » Sat Apr 04, 2020 2:47 am

First thing I also though was that it's really a male. If it is a male it would just make things a little easier as far a diagnosing. It could be a hemipene or even a sperm plug. If it's a female it could be a bit more dangerous being a prolapse. Have you tried the cool water and sugar bath? Has it changed at all?
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Re: New Beardie Genitalia Issue

Postby AHBD » Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:34 am

That's exactly the size of a sperm plug or hemipenee tip.
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Re: New Beardie Genitalia Issue

Postby winkydinks » Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:12 am

AHBD wrote:That's exactly the size of a sperm plug or hemipenee tip.

That's really interesting. I didn't feel the hemipenee along the inner sides of his/her tail base. My male also tried to mount him/her when I accidentally left the two of them uncaged in the same room. This was the source of my "certainty". When I noticed what they were doing, it was clear that he/she was submitting to him. I've also had this dragon out with my adult female and the two sat pleasantly and quietly with each other. Now I'm just confused as hell lol.
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Re: New Beardie Genitalia Issue

Postby AHBD » Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:21 am

Males will often mount subordinate males and those males can also seem uninterested in breeding at times. Can you post a clear pic of the vent area with the tail arched up high ?
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Re: New Beardie Genitalia Issue

Postby winkydinks » Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:44 am

AHBD wrote:Males will often mount subordinate males and those males can also seem uninterested in breeding at times. Can you post a clear pic of the vent area with the tail arched up high ?

So the issue seems resolved.

She laid a clutch of 25 infertile eggs (I inspected each egg thoroughly), and the prolapse seems to have fully retracted. Needless to say, she's definitely female lol.

Thanks for the support though!
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Re: New Beardie Genitalia Issue

Postby AHBD » Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:50 am

Wow, yes there was the definitive and undisputed answer !! Keep her well fed and hydrated, I'm sure you'll take good care of her. :)
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