Coronavirus and Dragon Prepping

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Re: Coronavirus and Dragon Prepping

Postby kingofnobbys » Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:38 am

DragonPete wrote:I know wild hornworms are a no no. Shame, they loved my tomatoes last year! 😲
I just don't have a worry about the dandelions and mint and yes, we are pretty rural here, been here 3 yrs. The only thing I actually use but in limited area would be fire ant poison. I'd never pick anything near that. But I will get a couple mounds each year and they are horrible. They have to be taken care of. I guess you don't have those in the NE? Be glad. It's awful in the south.😖
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Surely if you give them a day or two with no food to purge , the swap them over the special hornworm chow mix and feed them that for a few days they'll loose the accumulated toxins in them . Just speculation hut might work.
Nicotine in tobacco and maybe some nitrates.
solanine ,tomatine, in tomato

Surely there's a test kit for the toxin that you do on the worms for the toxin in the tomato or tobacco leafs , if it shows no toxin , it'll be fine.
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EBTSs : George & Mildred (born july 2010).
EWSs : Gutzy (F) 27Sep19, Fluffy (F) rescued injured by lawnwacker 14Nov17, Wriggles (F) - injured rescue, over 8 yrs old, RIP 2Feb16 old age. Lucky juvenile (M) - cat attack rescue (lost r-eye, broken r-lower jaw), fatal SI RIP 21Jul2010.
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Re: Coronavirus and Dragon Prepping

Postby kingofnobbys » Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:42 am

200g of medium to large very active BSFL and a medium batch of small crickets ( 20 - 25 day old ) about 900 arrived today .
I've only just started using the latest batch of medium crickets .

So I should be fine for live insects now for months.
CBDs: Cleopatra & Caesar born 28Jan19.
Puff (RIP 10Dec15),Rex (RIP 16Mar17),Toothless (RIP 26Nov17).Peppa (RIP 22Mar19).
EBTSs : George & Mildred (born july 2010).
EWSs : Gutzy (F) 27Sep19, Fluffy (F) rescued injured by lawnwacker 14Nov17, Wriggles (F) - injured rescue, over 8 yrs old, RIP 2Feb16 old age. Lucky juvenile (M) - cat attack rescue (lost r-eye, broken r-lower jaw), fatal SI RIP 21Jul2010.
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Re: Coronavirus and Dragon Prepping

Postby DragonPete » Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:50 am

kingofnobbys wrote:
DragonPete wrote:I know wild hornworms are a no no. Shame, they loved my tomatoes last year! 😲
I just don't have a worry about the dandelions and mint and yes, we are pretty rural here, been here 3 yrs. The only thing I actually use but in limited area would be fire ant poison. I'd never pick anything near that. But I will get a couple mounds each year and they are horrible. They have to be taken care of. I guess you don't have those in the NE? Be glad. It's awful in the south.😖
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Surely if you give them a day or two with no food to purge , the swap them over the special hornworm chow mix and feed them that for a few days they'll loose the accumulated toxins in them . Just speculation hut might work.

Surely there's a test kit for the toxin that you do on the worms for the toxin in the tomato or tobacco leafs , if it shows no toxin , it'll be fine.

I have no clue. But I'll pass on the chance of a worm giving Petey something bad. As long as I got greens and veggies, he could get by for a bit without worms I'm sure. He's adult. Lol 😆 He won't go hungry. I'll go hungry before I allow any of my babies to do without, they are my responsibility and I took that on freely. 👍 may not be ideal but ok temporarily and this will end at some point.👍
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Re: Coronavirus and Dragon Prepping

Postby DragonPete » Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:51 am

kingofnobbys wrote:200g of medium to large very active BSFL and a medium batch of small crickets ( 20 - 25 day old ) about 900 arrived today .
I've only just started using the latest batch of medium crickets .

So I should be fine for live insects now for months.

That's great!👍 Petey's order of 1000 Supers should be here tomorrow.
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Re: Coronavirus and Dragon Prepping

Postby kingofnobbys » Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:58 am

DragonPete wrote:
kingofnobbys wrote:200g of medium to large very active BSFL and a medium batch of small crickets ( 20 - 25 day old ) about 900 arrived today .
I've only just started using the latest batch of medium crickets .

So I should be fine for live insects now for months.

That's great!👍 Petey's order of 1000 Supers should be here tomorrow.
-Dee


Borders are being closed , and with self distancing , I could find my bug supply in QLD might end up unable ship across the NSW/QLD board.
Same with bug supplier in Victoria as the NSW/Vic border will be closed too.
That leaves the bug supplier based in Sydney (and Sydney's our covid-19 hotspot).

By the time Level 2 restrictions come into effect , my silkworm eggs will be starting hatch .
So when I have used up all the crickets , I'll still have mealworms, superworms, BSFL & silkworms .
I wont be hard to breed superworms and mealworms , and I've got gadzillions of silkworm eggs and will have a constant resupply of these.
By the time I run out of chow , I'll have a bushy but small mulberry plant to take leafs off and we'll be back into spring and mulberry leafs will be available from GUMTREE sellers ( who I expect will be numerous by then with likely 1.5 to 2 million of people out of work (and an unemployment rate likely up between 20% to 30% here by then) and trying make some money ).

I have no illusions about this , the writing is on the wall , we are heading for another international depression by the end of 2020 and in 2021 .
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CBDs: Cleopatra & Caesar born 28Jan19.
Puff (RIP 10Dec15),Rex (RIP 16Mar17),Toothless (RIP 26Nov17).Peppa (RIP 22Mar19).
EBTSs : George & Mildred (born july 2010).
EWSs : Gutzy (F) 27Sep19, Fluffy (F) rescued injured by lawnwacker 14Nov17, Wriggles (F) - injured rescue, over 8 yrs old, RIP 2Feb16 old age. Lucky juvenile (M) - cat attack rescue (lost r-eye, broken r-lower jaw), fatal SI RIP 21Jul2010.
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Re: Coronavirus and Dragon Prepping

Postby DragonPete » Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:05 am

kingofnobbys wrote:
DragonPete wrote:
kingofnobbys wrote:200g of medium to large very active BSFL and a medium batch of small crickets ( 20 - 25 day old ) about 900 arrived today .
I've only just started using the latest batch of medium crickets .

So I should be fine for live insects now for months.

That's great!👍 Petey's order of 1000 Supers should be here tomorrow.
-Dee


Borders are being closed , and with self distancing , I could find my bug supply in QLD might end up unable ship across the NSW/QLD board.
Same with bug supplier in Victoria as the NSW/Vic border will be closed too.
That leaves the bug supplier based in Sydney (and Sydney's out covid-19 hotspot).

Glad to hear you're set for bugs then! Kudos! 🤗
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Re: Coronavirus and Dragon Prepping

Postby kingofnobbys » Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:19 am

DragonPete wrote:
kingofnobbys wrote:
DragonPete wrote:
kingofnobbys wrote:200g of medium to large very active BSFL and a medium batch of small crickets ( 20 - 25 day old ) about 900 arrived today .
I've only just started using the latest batch of medium crickets .

So I should be fine for live insects now for months.

That's great!👍 Petey's order of 1000 Supers should be here tomorrow.
-Dee


Borders are being closed , and with self distancing , I could find my bug supply in QLD might end up unable ship across the NSW/QLD board.
Same with bug supplier in Victoria as the NSW/Vic border will be closed too.
That leaves the bug supplier based in Sydney (and Sydney's out covid-19 hotspot).

Glad to hear you're set for bugs then! Kudos! 🤗
-Dee


Worst case : I harvest catepillas off my edible greens, and supplement with Rapishi stuff I have in backup and start trading silkworms and siikworm eggs for crickets breed by other local lizard keepers.

Now is not the time to start selling off my silkworm eggs , I may really need them in 6 months and then I'll buggered.
I might start selling surplus small ( 1" ) silkworms in a few months though or maybe trading them for crickets bred by others.
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CBDs: Cleopatra & Caesar born 28Jan19.
Puff (RIP 10Dec15),Rex (RIP 16Mar17),Toothless (RIP 26Nov17).Peppa (RIP 22Mar19).
EBTSs : George & Mildred (born july 2010).
EWSs : Gutzy (F) 27Sep19, Fluffy (F) rescued injured by lawnwacker 14Nov17, Wriggles (F) - injured rescue, over 8 yrs old, RIP 2Feb16 old age. Lucky juvenile (M) - cat attack rescue (lost r-eye, broken r-lower jaw), fatal SI RIP 21Jul2010.
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Re: Coronavirus and Dragon Prepping

Postby DragonPete » Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:22 am

kingofnobbys wrote:
DragonPete wrote:
kingofnobbys wrote:
DragonPete wrote:
kingofnobbys wrote:200g of medium to large very active BSFL and a medium batch of small crickets ( 20 - 25 day old ) about 900 arrived today .
I've only just started using the latest batch of medium crickets .

So I should be fine for live insects now for months.

That's great!👍 Petey's order of 1000 Supers should be here tomorrow.
-Dee


Borders are being closed , and with self distancing , I could find my bug supply in QLD might end up unable ship across the NSW/QLD board.
Same with bug supplier in Victoria as the NSW/Vic border will be closed too.
That leaves the bug supplier based in Sydney (and Sydney's out covid-19 hotspot).

Glad to hear you're set for bugs then! Kudos! 🤗
-Dee


Worst case : I harvest catepillas off my edible greens, and supplement with Rapishi stuff I have in backup and start trading silkworms and siikworm eggs for crickets breed by other local lizard keepers.

Now is not the time to start selling off my silkworm eggs , I may really need them in 6 months and then I'll buggered.
I might start selling surplus small ( 1" ) silkworms in a few months though or maybe trading them for crickets bred by others.

If you have other reptile owners near you, barter is a great idea.👍
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Re: Coronavirus and Dragon Prepping

Postby kingofnobbys » Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:06 pm

I am now the proud owner of a black mulberry tree seedling.

On the front patio standing in a tub to get a good drink and get some sun and to start hardening up .
Advise is to let it harden up for 1 to 3 weeks before transplanting into a bed or a 40cm or bigger pot.

Have a stack of 40cm Décor Plastic selfwatering pots under the house , and ordered in four 30L bags of premium fruit potting mix to be delivered. If a fecall correctly , about one bag per pot of potting mix.

The mulberry tree wont be big enough to feed a big silkworms on a continuous basis , but will become my source of fresh leaves to start off the baby silkworms as they hatch and for the first few weeks in each batch ( from probably about September ).

Also some berry plant seeds ordered.
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and some mixed nasturtium seeds too
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CBDs: Cleopatra & Caesar born 28Jan19.
Puff (RIP 10Dec15),Rex (RIP 16Mar17),Toothless (RIP 26Nov17).Peppa (RIP 22Mar19).
EBTSs : George & Mildred (born july 2010).
EWSs : Gutzy (F) 27Sep19, Fluffy (F) rescued injured by lawnwacker 14Nov17, Wriggles (F) - injured rescue, over 8 yrs old, RIP 2Feb16 old age. Lucky juvenile (M) - cat attack rescue (lost r-eye, broken r-lower jaw), fatal SI RIP 21Jul2010.
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Re: Coronavirus and Dragon Prepping

Postby DragonPete » Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:18 am

kingofnobbys wrote:I am now the proud owner of a black mulberry tree seedling.

On the front patio standing in a tub to get a good drink and get some sun and to start hardening up .
Advise is to let it harden up for 1 to 3 weeks before transplanting into a bed or a 40cm or bigger pot.

Have a stack of 40cm Décor Plastic selfwatering pots under the house , and ordered in four 30L bags of premium fruit potting mix to be delivered. If a fecall correctly , about one bag per pot of potting mix.

The mulberry tree wont be big enough to feed a big silkworms on a continuous basis , but will become my source of fresh leaves to start off the baby silkworms as they hatch and for the first few weeks in each batch ( from probably about September ).

Also some berry plant seeds ordered.
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and some mixed nasturtium seeds too
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Is your mulberry the kind that produces fruit too? Do you plan to eventually transplant it in the ground?
Looks like you're on the way to all sorts of good stuff. 👍
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Re: Coronavirus and Dragon Prepping

Postby kingofnobbys » Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:32 am

Yes . It will produce black mulberries.

The blackberry plants will have to be grown in a 40cm diam pot, here blackberry are weeds .
CBDs: Cleopatra & Caesar born 28Jan19.
Puff (RIP 10Dec15),Rex (RIP 16Mar17),Toothless (RIP 26Nov17).Peppa (RIP 22Mar19).
EBTSs : George & Mildred (born july 2010).
EWSs : Gutzy (F) 27Sep19, Fluffy (F) rescued injured by lawnwacker 14Nov17, Wriggles (F) - injured rescue, over 8 yrs old, RIP 2Feb16 old age. Lucky juvenile (M) - cat attack rescue (lost r-eye, broken r-lower jaw), fatal SI RIP 21Jul2010.
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Re: Coronavirus and Dragon Prepping

Postby DragonPete » Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:46 am

kingofnobbys wrote:Yes . It will produce black mulberries.

The blackberry plants will have to be grown in a 40cm diam pot, here blackberry are weeds .


BlackBerry is my fave berry. ❤ Love BlackBerry cobbler. BlackBerry jam. Yum! 😋 I want to plant a couple BlackBerry and a couple blueberry bushes this spring. 👍 meaning soon. Lol!
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Re: Coronavirus and Dragon Prepping

Postby kingofnobbys » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:09 pm

My little mulberry tree
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Moving apace now , Hossein is well . So he'll be here on Friday am to finish filling my last 3m x 1.5m bed and top up my big 6m x 3m garden bed at front of house .
Getting 3 cu m of premium garden soil delivered , will be deposited on my green strip on a plastic tarp as I don't want to risk wrecking my new slab and driveway by having a loaded truck of up to 8 tons on it , my slab and driveway extension are reinforced , but not industrial strength , so OK for a big 4x4 and maybe a big caravan or mobile home or trailer boat but a truck is a risk. ( 3 cu m soil is about 5 tons by itself !! )

He'll be taking a Bunnings loan box trailor for day and collecting my tarps ( ordered from SuperCheapAuto via their Pick&Collect online ordering system).
CBDs: Cleopatra & Caesar born 28Jan19.
Puff (RIP 10Dec15),Rex (RIP 16Mar17),Toothless (RIP 26Nov17).Peppa (RIP 22Mar19).
EBTSs : George & Mildred (born july 2010).
EWSs : Gutzy (F) 27Sep19, Fluffy (F) rescued injured by lawnwacker 14Nov17, Wriggles (F) - injured rescue, over 8 yrs old, RIP 2Feb16 old age. Lucky juvenile (M) - cat attack rescue (lost r-eye, broken r-lower jaw), fatal SI RIP 21Jul2010.
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Re: Coronavirus and Dragon Prepping

Postby DragonPete » Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:28 am

Just a correction. I ordered 500 NOT 1000 Supers. Brain wasn't working I guess. 😆 Anyway, they came, fat and active. Petey's happy. 😊
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