What's wrong with Superworms?

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Re: What's wrong with Superworms?

Postby MrSpectrum » Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:03 pm

DragonPete wrote:Sounds like a Beardies Buffet! 😛

A Smörgåsbeard! :laughhard:
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Re: What's wrong with Superworms?

Postby Aaradimian » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:56 am

MrSpectrum wrote:
DragonPete wrote:Sounds like a Beardies Buffet! 😛

A Smörgåsbeard! :laughhard:



Bahahahaha!
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Re: What's wrong with Superworms?

Postby DragonPete » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:42 am

MrSpectrum wrote:
DragonPete wrote:Sounds like a Beardies Buffet! 😛

A Smörgåsbeard! :laughhard:


That's what I was going for but had no clue how to spell it. 😆
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Re: What's wrong with Superworms?

Postby MrSpectrum » Sat Feb 15, 2020 7:44 am

DragonPete wrote:
MrSpectrum wrote:
DragonPete wrote:Sounds like a Beardies Buffet! 😛

A Smörgåsbeard! :laughhard:


That's what I was going for but had no clue how to spell it. 😆
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Neither did I. Spellcheckers are our friends. :wink:
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Re: What's wrong with Superworms?

Postby DragonPete » Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:01 am

Ok gotcha. 😉 Doesn't seem to be an issue with my boy but at his age and since its been his #1 source of protein for as long as I have record, he seems to handle them well. I want to pick up a few horns when I can get to the pet store, if they look fresh. Last time I checked most of all the feeders at the store were dead. Had to get small container of supers to hold him till his came in. Glad I don't have to depend on the store, they had lousy products.😡
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Re: What's wrong with Superworms?

Postby DragonPete » Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:02 am

MrSpectrum wrote:
DragonPete wrote:
MrSpectrum wrote:
DragonPete wrote:Sounds like a Beardies Buffet! 😛

A Smörgåsbeard! :laughhard:


That's what I was going for but had no clue how to spell it. 😆
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Neither did I. Spellcheckers are our friends. :wink:


Not my spellchecker! LOL 😆
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Re: What's wrong with Superworms?

Postby Gormagon » Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:42 am

DragonPete wrote:Ok gotcha. 😉 Doesn't seem to be an issue with my boy but at his age and since its been his #1 source of protein for as long as I have record, he seems to handle them well. I want to pick up a few horns when I can get to the pet store, if they look fresh. Last time I checked most of all the feeders at the store were dead. Had to get small container of supers to hold him till his came in. Glad I don't have to depend on the store, they had lousy products.😡
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You need to order online, it's cheaper and you can set up shipments to the way your dragon eats this way he never runs out. It is more efficient this way.
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Re: What's wrong with Superworms?

Postby DragonPete » Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:55 am

Gormagon wrote:
DragonPete wrote:Ok gotcha. 😉 Doesn't seem to be an issue with my boy but at his age and since its been his #1 source of protein for as long as I have record, he seems to handle them well. I want to pick up a few horns when I can get to the pet store, if they look fresh. Last time I checked most of all the feeders at the store were dead. Had to get small container of supers to hold him till his came in. Glad I don't have to depend on the store, they had lousy products.😡
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You need to order online, it's cheaper and you can set up shipments to the way your dragon eats this way he never runs out. It is more efficient this way.


Actually I do order online but it took longer than expected. I had ordered several things for him when I first got him, including supers (from Amazon) but it took 9 days for the worms, everything else came in 3-5 days. I thought I'd pick up small pack of something fresh at the store to see if he liked it before I bought a larger amount. (Hornworms)
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Re: What's wrong with Superworms?

Postby BeardedDragonSteve » Sat Feb 15, 2020 1:46 pm

Aaradimian wrote:The reason I've heard it that their exoskeletons are hard to digest, especially for babies. I can't vouch for the truth of that statement, however. I feed them to mine from time to time as part of a feeder rotation and have never noticed any issues.

They are more easily digestible compared to mealworms because they have more surface area than normal mealworms. So they have less chitin.
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Re: What's wrong with Superworms?

Postby DragonPete » Sat Feb 15, 2020 2:41 pm

BeardedDragonSteve wrote:
Aaradimian wrote:The reason I've heard it that their exoskeletons are hard to digest, especially for babies. I can't vouch for the truth of that statement, however. I feed them to mine from time to time as part of a feeder rotation and have never noticed any issues.

They are more easily digestible compared to mealworms because they have more surface area than normal mealworms. So they have less chitin.

I have heard that meal worms are harder to digest than supers and I can understand the babies needing smaller and softer protein items. Makes sense to me. 😆
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Re: What's wrong with Superworms?

Postby MrSpectrum » Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:41 am

DragonPete wrote:I want to pick up a few horns when I can get to the pet store, if they look fresh. Last time I checked most of all the feeders at the store were dead. Had to get small container of supers to hold him till his came in. Glad I don't have to depend on the store, they had lousy products.😡

Good luck with that (seriously). I've had to do the same when mail orders were late, but yeah, the local pet stores have old, dead, overpriced (and I'm guessing undernourished) feeders. Funny though, they've always got an ample supply of crickets. With the amount Z eats, even they're too expensive ($.10+ ea)

Around here, hornworms are only sold singly for $3-$4 EACH. :shock: (I passed).
If ZaRDoZ hits the lottery, then he can try one/some. :lol:
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Re: What's wrong with Superworms?

Postby DragonPete » Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:47 am

MrSpectrum wrote:
DragonPete wrote:I want to pick up a few horns when I can get to the pet store, if they look fresh. Last time I checked most of all the feeders at the store were dead. Had to get small container of supers to hold him till his came in. Glad I don't have to depend on the store, they had lousy products.😡

Good luck with that (seriously). I've had to do the same when mail orders were late, but yeah, the local pet stores have old, dead, overpriced (and I'm guessing undernourished) feeders. Funny though, they've always got an ample supply of crickets. With the amount Z eats, even they're too expensive ($.10+ ea)

Around here, hornworms are only sold singly for $3-$4 EACH. :shock: (I passed).
If ZaRDoZ hits the lottery, then he can try one/some. :lol:

It's not quite that bad here. I think it was 6 for $10 or so. But yeah everything looked pathetic. Went thru 4-5 containers to find some Supers that were still moving. 😡
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Re: What's wrong with Superworms?

Postby DragonQueen3 » Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:11 pm

From my experience with 3 dragons, 11 months, 8-9 months and 3-4 months, the only issue super worms will cause is when eating to many!!!

It can cause them to be constipated and their poop will have a lot of tiny shard like pieces of the crunchy worm skin 😷😷😷

I rescued a male dragon last month who woudlnt eat anything but protein so I had that issue before figuring out how many worms is to many.
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Re: What's wrong with Superworms?

Postby DragonPete » Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:44 pm

DragonQueen3 wrote:From my experience with 3 dragons, 11 months, 8-9 months and 3-4 months, the only issue super worms will cause is when eating to many!!!

It can cause them to be constipated and their poop will have a lot of tiny shard like pieces of the crunchy worm skin 😷😷😷

I rescued a male dragon last month who woudlnt eat anything but protein so I had that issue before figuring out how many worms is to many.

If I don't feed him 1 at a time, he'll inhale them and not chew and I'll find pieces. Can't use his worm bowl. 😆 As long as I feed individually we're good.
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Oh and Petey only gets like 5-6 for his protein meal, 2-3 times a week.
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Re: What's wrong with Superworms?

Postby MrSpectrum » Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:54 pm

DragonPete wrote:If I don't feed him 1 at a time, he'll inhale them....

That's how Z is with his num-nums (dubias). The first time I ordered ½" I was concerned. The distance between his eyes was just about ½". When they got here, I think it must have been the end of their stock (and end of the year) because while mostly ½", there were an awful lot of larger & smaller sizes as well. Also a few hundred more than I ordered. One day curiosity got the better of me, and I fed him one of the largest (probably 1"). His eyes got real big (like a puppy that gets a huge rawhide) but he had no trouble munching that sucker down. Same with giant mealies & supers (which is why I didn't hesitate with the large supers order this time). Since then, I've kept with ½" dubias--mostly because the price goes up significantly with larger sizes. Where I used to count out 5, then 10, then 15... Now I just pull out a tube (I use old paper towel tubes instead of egg crate cuz I got a zillion of em) rap on the side, and 15-20 fall out into the bowl. He scarfs down 2, 3, even 4 at a time! :lol:

Like you say, he inhales 'em! :D (Or as I say, he's a roach hoover. :P )
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