Is this cancer?

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Is this cancer?

Postby Peeps » Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:57 am

I am back with concerns with Bubs again. She is lethargic and very slow moving along with not eating her greens. However she is still eating crickets and worms normally. She is staying on the cool side of her tank and sleeping for most of the day. She did this to me last year as well and turned out she was burmating so I was going bck and forth whether to get bloodwork done or not. I decided yes and got her bloodwork rechecked because of her previous one indicating she had an endocrine tumor due to extremely high glucose levels. Once again her glucose is sky high however is it about 200 lower than previously. 1,043 is what it is reading but all her other levels are normal. I am nervous because to figure out if she really does have a tumor I need extensive testing like CT scans and MRI's however I cannot afford that. I have done ultrasounds, xrays and bloodwork and still no definitive answer. She is pooping when I give her baths and they appear to be normal looking. Her fecal was negative which was just done recently as well. I will attach a photo of her bloodwork results and maybe you can give me some input. It did take them a few stabs to get the blood so I'm sure she was fairly stressed out however I don't feel like this would cause that much of an increase in her glucose. Her fat pads are still normal and her weight is around 610g when I last checked it a week ago so she is still large and doesn't appear to be losing weight though I will continue monitoring it. She has dark coloring when she is in her tank but no obvious black beard and she returns to normal color when I take her out. She is also still having the spasms in her abdominal area and it seems like it may have gotten worse or stayed the same, she gets pretty bad edema in her neck/beard but it goes away after awhile. I am at a complete loss as to what this could be. Is this definitely cancer because of the extremely high glucose? The glucose last time was at 1200 so it has gone down but she is still very hyperglycemic. The little muscle twitches also happen on her legs, tail and chest.

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Re: Is this cancer?

Postby CooperDragon » Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:25 pm

The extremely high glucose levels tend to indicate neuroendocrine gastrinoma as you said. I don’t know if that is conclusive or not, but it can be an indicator. She looks pretty happy in the photo and it’s good she is maintaining weight. It may be worth trying some dietary treatments (consult with your vet about this). Perhaps a diet with specific types of veges or cutting protein would help. The lethargic behavior combined with steady weight may be coincidence and be brumation alongside something else(or nothing at all).
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Re: Is this cancer?

Postby Drache613 » Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:09 pm

Hello,

Thanks for sending those to my email too, she is such a pretty girl.
I hope that she doesn't have cancer. There sure have been a lot of dragons lately, with high
glucose levels like that. The rest of the blood values like the uric acid & AST look fine right
now. The calcium & phosphorus levels are ok, but the calcium levels are a bit higher than
normal.
I am glad her weight is stable right now. Are you following a low fat diet for her?

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Re: Is this cancer?

Postby Peeps » Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:28 am

I am trying, she wont eat anything except crickets and worms so I’m not really sure what to do, do i force feed other things? I’m torn between what to do, at this point I feel like its palliative care most likely. There is just no way that she doesn’t have cancer with those levels and theres no way for me to get a definitive diagnosis.
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