Not an RI, Abscess & Jaw Fracture.

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Re: Not an RI, Abscess & Jaw Fracture.

Postby Claudiusx » Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:09 pm

I was just thinking about Pan last night. Thanks for the update.

I'm glad his jaw seems to be lining up better now.
I like AHBD's suggestion about the slurry. You could try really small bits of salad though and just see how it goes. Does he seem to at least be getting decent nutrition lately?

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Re: Not an RI, Abscess & Jaw Fracture.

Postby Drache613 » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:49 pm

Hello!

How is Pan doing? I hope he is feeling better, he sure is hanging in there.
I am so happy that his jaw is healing up & isn't hurting him too much. I think the slurry is a
great idea so he doesn't have to do any unnecessary chewing. Is he still able to eat his
worms pretty well also?

Keep us posted on him.

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Re: Not an RI, Abscess & Jaw Fracture.

Postby Blackenedsabbath » Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:03 pm

Hello everyone,

I'm sorry I went MIA again, I had some personal issues going on.

Pancake's vet appointment yesterday went well, he was very calm the whole car ride there and at the vet's office. But more importantly... The abscess has gone down!!! :blob5: I have to supervise him for the next two weeks to make sure his breathing stays normal. He hasn't gained any weight, but his weight has stayed the same. I think he might be getting too used to syringe feeding, he ate a bowl of Repashy, but only if I put it on a spoon for him. If it's in the bowl he wont touch it :roll:

Here are the pictures I wanted to upload last week:

This is his jaw from the front. If you look at the tip of his nose and his chin you can see it's lined up a lot better than it was last month.
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Side view of the fracture. That scab that was along his gum line Pan got rid of himself somehow.
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Here he is taking some cilantro for the first time in months
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And as for the mention on the vegetable slurry, I have been begging my mom to let me use the blender. She isn't going for it so far because the blender needs a minimum amount of food in it, which is above what Pancake eats and it would be a waste of food. Do you know of any decently priced blenders that work well for making beardie slurries? Otherwise, he seems to be happy with his Repashy right now. He's still eating his worms without any problems.

The last picture for you guys, is Pancake sending a blep for all of the support you've given him.
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I'm beyond happy that he's getting better!! It's so nice to see him running around and getting up to his shenanigans again.
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Re: Not an RI, Abscess & Jaw Fracture.

Postby Claudiusx » Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:05 pm

Hi there,

What an amazing update! We forgive you for going MIA as long as you come back with updates like that! :mrgreen:
That is such great news for pan I'm happy for you two. Great progress!

That last picture is awesome, I love it.

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Re: Not an RI, Abscess & Jaw Fracture.

Postby Blackenedsabbath » Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:09 pm

claudiusx wrote:Hi there,

What an amazing update! We forgive you for going MIA as long as you come back with updates like that! :mrgreen:
That is such great news for pan I'm happy for you two. Great progress!

That last picture is awesome, I love it.

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Re: Not an RI, Abscess & Jaw Fracture.

Postby AHBD » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:38 am

Hey, look at that little warrior ! So nice to see him doing this well . :)
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Re: Not an RI, Abscess & Jaw Fracture.

Postby JumpinJellyfish » Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:37 pm

Love the blep pic! I bought a little $15 blender (looks like a nutribullet knockoff) that may be the sort of thing you're looking for. It's made by Hamilton Beach, and it was with the regular blenders at Walmart.
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Re: Not an RI, Abscess & Jaw Fracture.

Postby Drache613 » Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:19 am

Hello,

That is a great update for Pancake, he is doing so well! :D
It looks like his jaw is healing up nicely. Since he is active & eating pretty good he must
be feeling a lot better.
I was going to suggest a mini food processor, or that magic bullit too to help process the foods
for him.

Keep us posted on his progress.

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Re: Not an RI, Abscess & Jaw Fracture.

Postby Blackenedsabbath » Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:01 am

JumpinJellyfish wrote:Love the blep pic! I bought a little $15 blender (looks like a nutribullet knockoff) that may be the sort of thing you're looking for. It's made by Hamilton Beach, and it was with the regular blenders at Walmart.


Thanks for the suggestion, I'll look into it.

I bought some escarole and try giving him a normal sized piece, he was able to chew it okay so I don't think I'll have to rip them into tiny pieces. Although, he doesn't particularly want to eat his veggies; I'm not sure if this is because he's been spoiled with getting to eat a lot of hornworms and silks, or if it has to do with him still not feeling well. Pancake has started to eat Repashy grub pie on his own (he won't touch the veggie burger one). In terms of activity he seems very up and down, two days ago he was wandering around his terrarium, but yesterday he didn't come out of his cave AT ALL until I got home from class (7PM), then he was suddenly running around like a rocket and had this massive appetite. It was strange.
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Re: Not an RI, Abscess & Jaw Fracture.

Postby AHBD » Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:11 am

Keep up the good work, you + your baby Pancake . :)
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Re: Not an RI, Abscess & Jaw Fracture.

Postby Blackenedsabbath » Wed Dec 25, 2019 9:51 am

Hi guys,

Unfortunately Pancake has taken a turn for the worse. He went off his food again, so he has been syringe fed again along with insects. Now he wont eat bugs. His weight has dropped and Im trying very hard to get his weight back up but he's resisting the syringe feeding. I've also been giving him water via syringe. His breathing was crackling and popping again, I've been bathing him more in shallow water and that seems to have cleared it up. He mostly just sleeps. The issue with his eye getting stuck closed due to the abscess is awful, it wont open and Ive been trying the eyedrops that have worked everytime before but now they arent. I read somewhere about a chamomille tea bag helping, any advice on that? Im honestly completely lost on what to do. I feel like his weight needs to be improved before he has any tests done, his fat pads are not looking good. Im torn between taking him to the vet and trying to help him or trying to find a reputable rescue center to give him another chance. I love him so much and I cant stand seeing him in this condition. My mom was saying if I take him to the vet he'd go back on antibiotics, which she's saying would be too hard on his system given how long he was on it for the abscess the first time around. Do you guys think it would be too much on him? But wouldnt the rescue center need to do the same thing? Im so sorry if this is hard to follow, I just really need advice.
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Re: Not an RI, Abscess & Jaw Fracture.

Postby AHBD » Wed Dec 25, 2019 1:03 pm

Aw, that's too bad for you + Pancake ! Can you post current pics of his body size and of his eye ? The chamomile tea bag can sometimes reduce a swelling, you would boil it or just heat up in a microwave, let it cool a while + apply it while it's semi-warm. I'm not sure about antibiotics but if his R.I is back that may be your only option. Don't soak him too often now + be sure to do it early enough in the day that he has enough time to dry off completely under his heat lamp [ after you pat him dry ] before lights go out.
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Re: Not an RI, Abscess & Jaw Fracture.

Postby Drache613 » Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:34 am

Hello,

Poor Pancake, he has been doing so well!
The chamomile tea bag does have some healing properties, yes. As suggested, be sure it
isn't too warm before placing it on his eye.
How long was he on the antibiotics, previously, total time? Do you have probiotics that you
could start him on if you put him back on antibiotics?
You could consider doing nebulizer treatments on him, instead.

Let us know how he is doing.
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Re: Not an RI, Abscess & Jaw Fracture.

Postby Blackenedsabbath » Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:36 pm

I was going to post pictures after work, but it's with an extremely heavy and broken heart that I have to say my baby Pancake passed away this afternoon. I think the abscess was leaking again at a worse rate than before and he couldnt handle it this time. I want to thank all of you once again for your advice, willingness to help, and your love sent to Pancake for the last few months. This entire website has been amazing, and I'm glad I was able to at least give Pan the happiness he deserved for at least part of his life. If any of you happen to know of reputable bearded dragon rescues in Ontario, Canada, please let me know as I would like to donate the rest of the Pan-Fund to them.
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Re: Not an RI, Abscess & Jaw Fracture.

Postby Drache613 » Sun Dec 29, 2019 12:42 am

Hello,

Oh no, I am so sorry to hear that Pancake passed away. :cry: That is so awful, poor thing.
He sure was a trooper & was really strong in trying to recover. He was not alone & I'm glad
that he had you helping him through everything.
I am deeply sorry for your loss.
We do have a lot of members up in Canada so someone may know of a rescue facility in your
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