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Can you be allergic to BD?

Postby HemiLeo » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:26 am

A while back I watch our school bearded dragon for spring break. I brought him (Leo) home and set his tank up and everything and started watching him for a week :D :D :D

Then after I brought him back to school I started having BAD eye problems... to the point I was balling my eyes out.

SO my question is can you be allergic to them.
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Re: Can you be allergic to BD?

Postby kingofnobbys » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:11 am

Unlikely.

Now allergic to the fras ( poo ) produced by the feeder insects …. that's common.
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Re: Can you be allergic to BD?

Postby claudiusx » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:29 am

It was more likely due to seasonal issues. If you were having a reaction from anything beardie related you would have noticed it while he was in your home. :)

Most likely just pollen or something in the air.

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Re: Can you be allergic to BD?

Postby MrSpectrum » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:36 am

HemiLeo wrote:SO my question is can you be allergic to them.


While not likely, it does seem to be possible--see: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10932082

See also:
http://www.anapsid.org/reptileallergies.html
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/10/151030105252.htm
and google: allergy to reptiles

What makes me wonder is... you didn't get any symptoms until after you returned the BD to school, and ostensibly had less exposure than when you were caring for him?

I think I'd also be looking for other causes, including late bloom flora, molds, & other environmental exposures.
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Re: Can you be allergic to BD?

Postby HemiLeo » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:02 pm

claudiusx wrote:It was more likely due to seasonal issues. If you were having a reaction from anything beardie related you would have noticed it while he was in your home. :)

Most likely just pollen or something in the air.

-Brandon

Thanks, I talked to my mom and dad about it and we said it was the cricket poop.

SO my next question is can you feed a baby BD without crickets or is it essential for them? :D
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Re: Can you be allergic to BD?

Postby kingofnobbys » Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:24 pm

HemiLeo wrote:
claudiusx wrote:It was more likely due to seasonal issues. If you were having a reaction from anything beardie related you would have noticed it while he was in your home. :)

Most likely just pollen or something in the air.

-Brandon

Thanks, I talked to my mom and dad about it and we said it was the cricket poop.

SO my next question is can you feed a baby BD without crickets or is it essential for them? :D


What I do , regards crickets

>> I keep my crickets in batches of 50 to 80 in 600cc bug tubs (I buy my crickets by the 1000 by mailorder).
>> I keep the crickets' keeper tubs clean by tipping them all out into a 30L tub once a week and removing any poo and old food and sick or dead crickets I spot at this time.

Other insects suitable for a hatchling are as shown here : viewtopic.php?f=45&t=244111&p=1859195#p1859195
silkworms ( up to 1" long)
BSFL ( phoenix worms ) large white wriggly ones
Blowfly gents
housefly gents
small roaches ( be aware they are very fast , get some Fluon to paint on the tip rim of the keeper)
small locusts.
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Lucky - cat attack rescue, fatal SI RIP 21Jul2010.
Wriggles - rescued injured ,thought she was a big lizard, over 8 yrs old, RIP 2Feb16. .
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Re: Can you be allergic to BD?

Postby BigD16 » Mon Aug 19, 2019 1:20 pm

It was more than likely the cricket feces you were allergic to. I know when I had my clan of beardies no matter what I did.. I could wear gloves, I could wash my hands 20 times... I could feed my dragons, wash my hands, and touch my face hours after handling the crickets and washing my hands and I was an absolute mess. I'm talking violent coughing, tickle in the throat I couldn't scratch no matter how much I coughed, red glassy bloodshot eyes to the point it looked like I had double pink eye. runny nose.
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Re: Can you be allergic to BD?

Postby HemiLeo » Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:33 am

BigD16 wrote:It was more than likely the cricket feces you were allergic to. I know when I had my clan of beardies no matter what I did.. I could wear gloves, I could wash my hands 20 times... I could feed my dragons, wash my hands, and touch my face hours after handling the crickets and washing my hands and I was an absolute mess. I'm talking violent coughing, tickle in the throat I couldn't scratch no matter how much I coughed, red glassy bloodshot eyes to the point it looked like I had double pink eye. runny nose.

I agree I was thinking about different food for a Beardie to...
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Re: Can you be allergic to BD?

Postby Aaradimian » Tue Aug 20, 2019 7:09 am

HemiLeo wrote:
BigD16 wrote:It was more than likely the cricket feces you were allergic to. I know when I had my clan of beardies no matter what I did.. I could wear gloves, I could wash my hands 20 times... I could feed my dragons, wash my hands, and touch my face hours after handling the crickets and washing my hands and I was an absolute mess. I'm talking violent coughing, tickle in the throat I couldn't scratch no matter how much I coughed, red glassy bloodshot eyes to the point it looked like I had double pink eye. runny nose.

I agree I was thinking about different food for a Beardie to...


Dubia roaches are a good feeder, but you can be allergic to their droppings too, I've read. It might be just trial & error to find one that is good for your beardie and non-allergenic to you.
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Re: Can you be allergic to BD?

Postby HemiLeo » Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:23 am

Aaradimian wrote:
HemiLeo wrote:
BigD16 wrote:It was more than likely the cricket feces you were allergic to. I know when I had my clan of beardies no matter what I did.. I could wear gloves, I could wash my hands 20 times... I could feed my dragons, wash my hands, and touch my face hours after handling the crickets and washing my hands and I was an absolute mess. I'm talking violent coughing, tickle in the throat I couldn't scratch no matter how much I coughed, red glassy bloodshot eyes to the point it looked like I had double pink eye. runny nose.

I agree I was thinking about different food for a Beardie to...

Dubia roaches are a good feeder, but you can be allergic to their droppings too, I've read. It might be just trial & error to find one that is good for your beardie and non-allergenic to you.

Ok I will keep that in mind :blob8:
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Re: Can you be allergic to BD?

Postby label » Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:50 am

HemiLeo wrote:A while back I watch our school bearded dragon for spring break. I brought him (Leo) home and set his tank up and everything and started watching him for a week :D :D :D

Then after I brought him back to school I started having BAD eye problems... to the point I was balling my eyes out.

SO my question is can you be allergic to them.


I'd have thought that this was impossible but I saw my lung doc today for my usual asthma check-up and she said that people who work a lot with snakes can become allergic to them, though they don't know why. Small furry animals (rats, mice, guinea pigs, rabbits) are much more common allergens. But snake allergy is not common; I'd bet on the bugs as the source of the problem.
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Re: Can you be allergic to BD?

Postby MrSpectrum » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:41 am

If someone's sensitivity extends to multiple feeder droppings/dust, gloves alone might not be enough.
I'd try gloves, a hypoallergenic dust mask, and make use of OTC antihistamines [insert standard caveats here] as needed. If that doesn't help, I might seek out an allergy specialist.

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(Allergic to other things--keeping fingers crossed :) )
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Re: Can you be allergic to BD?

Postby HemiLeo » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:06 am

label wrote:
HemiLeo wrote:A while back I watch our school bearded dragon for spring break. I brought him (Leo) home and set his tank up and everything and started watching him for a week :D :D :D

Then after I brought him back to school I started having BAD eye problems... to the point I was balling my eyes out.

SO my question is can you be allergic to them.


I'd have thought that this was impossible but I saw my lung doc today for my usual asthma check-up and she said that people who work a lot with snakes can become allergic to them, though they don't know why. Small furry animals (rats, mice, guinea pigs, rabbits) are much more common allergens. But snake allergy is not common; I'd bet on the bugs as the source of the problem.

Do they have oils on there scales/skin???
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Re: Can you be allergic to BD?

Postby MrSpectrum » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:30 am

HemiLeo wrote:Do they have oils on there scales/skin???

Some do--not all, to my knowledge.
Some snakes polish their scales. They secrete an oily substance from their nasal passage, and then rub the secretion all over the scales. This is done at varying intervals depending on the species of snake, sometimes frequently, other times only after shedding or molting. It is thought that scale polishing is used as a method of waterproofing, and it may also play a role in chemical messaging or friction reduction.[7]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snakeskin
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