Can you be allergic to BD?

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HemiLeo

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A while back I watch our school bearded dragon for spring break. I brought him (Leo) home and set his tank up and everything and started watching him for a week :D :D :D

Then after I brought him back to school I started having BAD eye problems... to the point I was balling my eyes out.

SO my question is can you be allergic to them.
 

Claudiusx

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It was more likely due to seasonal issues. If you were having a reaction from anything beardie related you would have noticed it while he was in your home. :)

Most likely just pollen or something in the air.

-Brandon
 

MrSpectrum

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HemiLeo":1fi3b8mt said:
SO my question is can you be allergic to them.

While not likely, it does seem to be possible--see: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10932082

See also:
http://www.anapsid.org/reptileallergies.html
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/10/151030105252.htm
and google: allergy to reptiles

What makes me wonder is... you didn't get any symptoms until after you returned the BD to school, and ostensibly had less exposure than when you were caring for him?

I think I'd also be looking for other causes, including late bloom flora, molds, & other environmental exposures.
 

HemiLeo

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claudiusx":2tbx8eqm said:
It was more likely due to seasonal issues. If you were having a reaction from anything beardie related you would have noticed it while he was in your home. :)

Most likely just pollen or something in the air.

-Brandon
Thanks, I talked to my mom and dad about it and we said it was the cricket poop.

SO my next question is can you feed a baby BD without crickets or is it essential for them? :D
 

kingofnobbys

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HemiLeo":ap6pr90l said:
claudiusx":ap6pr90l said:
It was more likely due to seasonal issues. If you were having a reaction from anything beardie related you would have noticed it while he was in your home. :)

Most likely just pollen or something in the air.

-Brandon
Thanks, I talked to my mom and dad about it and we said it was the cricket poop.

SO my next question is can you feed a baby BD without crickets or is it essential for them? :D

What I do , regards crickets

>> I keep my crickets in batches of 50 to 80 in 600cc bug tubs (I buy my crickets by the 1000 by mailorder).
>> I keep the crickets' keeper tubs clean by tipping them all out into a 30L tub once a week and removing any poo and old food and sick or dead crickets I spot at this time.

Other insects suitable for a hatchling are as shown here : viewtopic.php?f=45&t=244111&p=1859195#p1859195
silkworms ( up to 1" long)
BSFL ( phoenix worms ) large white wriggly ones
Blowfly gents
housefly gents
small roaches ( be aware they are very fast , get some Fluon to paint on the tip rim of the keeper)
small locusts.
 

BigD16

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It was more than likely the cricket feces you were allergic to. I know when I had my clan of beardies no matter what I did.. I could wear gloves, I could wash my hands 20 times... I could feed my dragons, wash my hands, and touch my face hours after handling the crickets and washing my hands and I was an absolute mess. I'm talking violent coughing, tickle in the throat I couldn't scratch no matter how much I coughed, red glassy bloodshot eyes to the point it looked like I had double pink eye. runny nose.
 

HemiLeo

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BigD16":2a66t1fi said:
It was more than likely the cricket feces you were allergic to. I know when I had my clan of beardies no matter what I did.. I could wear gloves, I could wash my hands 20 times... I could feed my dragons, wash my hands, and touch my face hours after handling the crickets and washing my hands and I was an absolute mess. I'm talking violent coughing, tickle in the throat I couldn't scratch no matter how much I coughed, red glassy bloodshot eyes to the point it looked like I had double pink eye. runny nose.
I agree I was thinking about different food for a Beardie to...
 

Aaradimian

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HemiLeo":1ytx4ujr said:
BigD16":1ytx4ujr said:
It was more than likely the cricket feces you were allergic to. I know when I had my clan of beardies no matter what I did.. I could wear gloves, I could wash my hands 20 times... I could feed my dragons, wash my hands, and touch my face hours after handling the crickets and washing my hands and I was an absolute mess. I'm talking violent coughing, tickle in the throat I couldn't scratch no matter how much I coughed, red glassy bloodshot eyes to the point it looked like I had double pink eye. runny nose.
I agree I was thinking about different food for a Beardie to...

Dubia roaches are a good feeder, but you can be allergic to their droppings too, I've read. It might be just trial & error to find one that is good for your beardie and non-allergenic to you.
 

HemiLeo

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Aaradimian":34oat00h said:
HemiLeo":34oat00h said:
BigD16":34oat00h said:
It was more than likely the cricket feces you were allergic to. I know when I had my clan of beardies no matter what I did.. I could wear gloves, I could wash my hands 20 times... I could feed my dragons, wash my hands, and touch my face hours after handling the crickets and washing my hands and I was an absolute mess. I'm talking violent coughing, tickle in the throat I couldn't scratch no matter how much I coughed, red glassy bloodshot eyes to the point it looked like I had double pink eye. runny nose.
I agree I was thinking about different food for a Beardie to...
Dubia roaches are a good feeder, but you can be allergic to their droppings too, I've read. It might be just trial & error to find one that is good for your beardie and non-allergenic to you.
Ok I will keep that in mind :blob8:
 

label

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HemiLeo":6k9zg973 said:
A while back I watch our school bearded dragon for spring break. I brought him (Leo) home and set his tank up and everything and started watching him for a week :D :D :D

Then after I brought him back to school I started having BAD eye problems... to the point I was balling my eyes out.

SO my question is can you be allergic to them.

I'd have thought that this was impossible but I saw my lung doc today for my usual asthma check-up and she said that people who work a lot with snakes can become allergic to them, though they don't know why. Small furry animals (rats, mice, guinea pigs, rabbits) are much more common allergens. But snake allergy is not common; I'd bet on the bugs as the source of the problem.
 

MrSpectrum

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If someone's sensitivity extends to multiple feeder droppings/dust, gloves alone might not be enough.
I'd try gloves, a hypoallergenic dust mask, and make use of OTC antihistamines [insert standard caveats here] as needed. If that doesn't help, I might seek out an allergy specialist.

Best Wishes
(Allergic to other things--keeping fingers crossed :) )
 

HemiLeo

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label":trd0f2m9 said:
HemiLeo":trd0f2m9 said:
A while back I watch our school bearded dragon for spring break. I brought him (Leo) home and set his tank up and everything and started watching him for a week :D :D :D

Then after I brought him back to school I started having BAD eye problems... to the point I was balling my eyes out.

SO my question is can you be allergic to them.

I'd have thought that this was impossible but I saw my lung doc today for my usual asthma check-up and she said that people who work a lot with snakes can become allergic to them, though they don't know why. Small furry animals (rats, mice, guinea pigs, rabbits) are much more common allergens. But snake allergy is not common; I'd bet on the bugs as the source of the problem.
Do they have oils on there scales/skin???
 

MrSpectrum

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HemiLeo":1eewfp7f said:
Do they have oils on there scales/skin???
Some do--not all, to my knowledge.
Some snakes polish their scales. They secrete an oily substance from their nasal passage, and then rub the secretion all over the scales. This is done at varying intervals depending on the species of snake, sometimes frequently, other times only after shedding or molting. It is thought that scale polishing is used as a method of waterproofing, and it may also play a role in chemical messaging or friction reduction.[7]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snakeskin
 
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