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Decimated my Flytrap; Question about dried bugs and others

Postby Sabotender » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:33 pm

Okay, so my bearded dragon Rusty plucked my new flytrap bare the moment I removed it from its plastic pakckaging. I did some research, and it doesn't appear to be poisonous, but its on the list of things that you shouldn't feed on a regular basis. Has been permanantly removed until the bell jar that I've ordered arrives in the post.

I had a question about feeding dried crickets, grasshoppers and black soldier fly larvae. I have not had luck raising any of the bugs or keeping live ones. Crickets stink up to high heaven and are noisy and ridiculous low lifespan. Grasshoppers aren't really avaialble anywhere live, and any kind of worm that I've tried live just...DIE and they are simply too expensive to waste and not be able to use as feed. I don't like the idea of introducing any sort of roach in my home, so those are out of the question.

What are your opinions on dried feeder insects compared to fresh? I probably won't bother with live insects anymore because I want to maximise my bang for my buck. I am not worried at all about the lack of water, because he readily drinks the filtered water in his water dish and was a drinker the moment I displayed the bowl in his cage.

I am already feeding my dragon dried bugs and he eats them up like you wouldn't believe. Simply cleans his plate during feeding time. I've switched from dried mealworms to dried soldier fly larvae since mealworms have a hard outer shell or something.

So to recap, his diet currently consists of: Dried Crickets, grasshoppers, black soldier fly larvae, cucumber, kale, peas, carrots, rocket. I was actually surprised how readily he took to vegetables, actually. No coaxing required. Gobbled everything down as soon as I offered it.

Never seen dandilion except the stuff that grows wild, and everyone uses weed killer around here. No alfalfa or anything thats called 'greens' looked everwhere for mustard greens, turnip greens, etc to no avail. Best I can do are the boxed salads that I get myself. I typically get the rocket and kale (I love kale) or rocket and spinach. I eat lots of radishes and sometimes I can get them from the store with fresh tops (of which I eat myself), can the tops be fed? How about the bulb?

Side note: I've decided to call my dragon 'Rusty' (if you haven't already noticed) regardless of gender it turns out to be.


Thanks for reading!
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Re: Decimated my Flytrap; Question about dried bugs and othe

Postby kingofnobbys » Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:53 am

Dry insects are a VERY POOR CHOICE of food for a dragon.

1) no moisture in them , a big source of hydration for bearded dragons is moisture in LIVE insects.
2) not as nutritious , they loose a lot in the drying process , might as well feed the dragon cardboard.
3) impaction risk is increased.
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Re: Decimated my Flytrap; Question about dried bugs and othe

Postby claudiusx » Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:30 am

Hi there,

Most would agree that live feeders are a better choice, however, dried is better than nothing! :) especially if you dont have easy access to live.

Drying the insects really only lowers the levels of volatile vitamins like a and c. The fact that Rusty drinks well and eats a good salad, makes up for the real downfall of dried insects.

Most dragons dont like dried insects which is another reason we tend to suggest live prey. But if yours eats them readily, and you can provide a varied diet with them, try it out. I would still try to add live feeders, also for varieties sake, whenever you can :)

The more varied the diet, the less you need to worry about nutritional gaps and deficiencies :D

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Re: Decimated my Flytrap; Question about dried bugs and othe

Postby KarrieRee » Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:34 am

I would suggest getting some dubia roaches--- they are way better for nutrition -- here is some info for you on those
Dubias
• Wide range of sizes
• Long life span
• Excellent nutrition
• Easy to digest
• High in protein
Convenient for you
• Odorless and soundless
• Will not infest your home
• Can be stored out of sight
• Easy to care for
• Cannot jump, fly or climb
you can google dubia roaches - lots of suppliers - I get mine from dubiaroaches.com -- they can be kept in a 10 gallon aquarium or tote fed dubia food carrots apples strawberries etc-- they dont like greens much -
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Re: Decimated my Flytrap; Question about dried bugs and othe

Postby harshstonewhite83 » Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:47 am

Yeah go with dubias. Very easy, cheap, and my beardie loves them. Can get 300 in a small container from Amazon.com for like $24. Shipping is usually free from those companies too. Just make sure the postman doesn't leave them outside in the extreme cold or heat.
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Re: Decimated my Flytrap; Question about dried bugs and othe

Postby Juniper » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:23 pm

I understand not wanting to get roaches given their reputation/the associations people have with them, but having kept both roaches and crickets as feeder insects, I can tell you that roaches are much less disgusting than you might expect. They avoid pretty much all the problems you have stated with crickets and worms. Unlike crickets, dubia roaches do not smell, do not bite you or your dragon, do not die easily, do not cannibalize each other, do not make noise, do not escape their container and infest your home (I have had so many crickets escape, but not one roach), move relatively slowly, and rarely carry parasites. Dubia roaches are also not a pest species/not one of the roaches you find infesting human dwellings. I am someone who is grossed out by bugs and I highly recommend dubia roaches. A bearded dragon will not thrive in the long term on dried bugs. They lose nutrients as well as moisture in the drying process, and even if they didn't, I like to allow my beardie to still act like a lizard and chase bugs while living in captivity; it seems like important enrichment. Dubias are not what you expect when you hear "roach;" they are so easy and clean compared to every other live feeder I have tried.
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