Tiny 9 month old dragon... why?

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Tiny 9 month old dragon... why?

Postby TinyBlue » Wed May 22, 2019 10:17 pm

I have this dragon. I got her since she was a few days old, from a friend, along with two of her siblings. They all shared the same cage, they all eat their greens and their worms and crickets regularly and with great enthusiasm. They all grew well... except for her. Blue is a leatherback trans female, with a lovely colour and a lot of personality. But she's 15 cm long, and 17 grams. As I said, all my dragons live in the same conditions, they are all healthy and the other two have grown well. Is there anything like "dwarfism" among dragons? Could it be that she's stressed? Parasites?
The vet said she's fine, just small, and put it down to the variety of life.

---This morning, for the first time, she looked scared when I went to pick her up to say hello (as I usually do). She opened her mouth and hissed. I wonder why. Of course, I let her be.
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Re: Tiny 9 month old dragon... why?

Postby Moon4wolfgirl » Thu May 23, 2019 3:38 am

Hi, do all the bearded dragons share the same cage?
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Re: Tiny 9 month old dragon... why?

Postby TinyBlue » Thu May 23, 2019 3:57 am

Not anymore... I have Blue on her own now, in an effort yo ser if It was stress what was keeping her small. But that was two months ago and, although she has kept slowly growing, there isnt any visible change. They also spend most of the day in an outdoor pen (divided). They are all females, by the way, and rather mellow Girls...
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Re: Tiny 9 month old dragon... why?

Postby kingofnobbys » Thu May 23, 2019 3:59 am

I think this is because she is sharing with her larger siblings and is being dominated. It's called failure to thrive.

She needs her own tank, she needs not to be able to see the other two all the time.

She wont catch up growth-wise but will very likely have a growth spurt once she adjusts to having her siblings moved to another tank and still has 15 - 16 months of potential growth in her and can literally double in size in that time.

If you are monitoring their growth REGULARLY , this is best done by weighing each dragon at the same time once a week before it's first daily meal.
This is the kind of spreadsheet I have used for years for several groups of dragons and skinks :
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and my charts look like this :

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If you are interested in rate of change each week
the comparison calc = diff(week(i+1)) / mass(week(i))

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this will give a way of seeing if , when all else is the same , there is an issue with one of the three , ie not growing a similar rate in a normalized se

Separate time out is a good idea too for the dragons.
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Re: Tiny 9 month old dragon... why?

Postby TinyBlue » Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:30 pm

Well, I never thanked you for your replies. Yes, they were separated, but they could see each other (by the way, the third sister died suddenly a few weeks ago), so that is probably why Blue wasn't showing any signs of growth after the separation. Now her other sister is away, probably for good (I asked a friend to look after her for a wee while to see if there was any change in Blue), and yes, in the last few weeks since I last worte here she has put on about 10 g and her head shape has started to change, she looks older. I need to post a photo, mostly because she's a beauty, :wink: but also to show the change.
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