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Simulate sunrise/sunset with LED's

Postby Berserk » Tue May 07, 2019 7:52 am

Hello,

I currently have a 4'x2'x2' vivarium. No BD yet. Still setting up the vivarium.
I would like to be able to simulate a sunrise & sunset using LED's. I bought one from Amazon but I noticed that when it is ramping up/down, it flickers a lot. So this would not work.
I have seen a post from charmander16 that has very good information.
viewtopic.php?f=34&t=235017&hilit=led+dimmer

Just wondering if there are updated information about it.

Thanks!

Current setup:
Dual dome (@least 12" from basking area) on right side with one megaray 70 watts UVB lamp in basking area. This raises the temp to about 39 degrees celcius. The other light is a 50 watts Philips Halogen light. When this turns on, it raises the temp to 50 degrees celcius so I currently have this off. I may need a dimmer for this.

Single dome at center for sunrise/sunset with the LED light that I would like to replace due to flickering at ramp time.

Arcadia T5 D3 Desert UVB (24 Watt) on a sunblaster fixture located center back.

CHE 100 watt and Fan on a inkbird temp controller on the left side
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Re: Simulate sunrise/sunset with LED's

Postby CooperDragon » Tue May 07, 2019 12:15 pm

Unfortunately that thread is the latest discussion I've seen on it. Please feel free to chime in with more info as you get it though! I still simulate sunrise and sunset with my basking halogen bulb using the settings built into my herpstat. It's not always as smooth as I'd like but it does the job. I'd still like a way to increase and decrease the UVB output with a single bulb but that's still probably a ways off in terms of available/affordable tech.
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Re: Simulate sunrise/sunset with LED's

Postby JumpinJellyfish » Thu May 09, 2019 9:14 am

I'm not sure how it would work in this type of setup, but thought I'd mention anyway, in case it could work for you. In my bird room, I have an LiFX bulb (in a normal lamp) that works with my wifi and an app. It lets me set the "scene"/color, schedule, and transition time, which is how I simulate sunrise/sunset for my birds (they have other lighting on timers, but the smartbulb helps them not be startled by the regular lights coming on/going off. :0)
For my dragon I just have the basking light on before and off after the UVB, but now that you got me thinking...
(Cooperdragon, I tried a thermostat and household timer, but that didn't work properly. I keep meaning to look into the brand you've mentioned).
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Re: Simulate sunrise/sunset with LED's

Postby CooperDragon » Thu May 09, 2019 10:17 am

That's an interesting option. It looks like those Lifx bulbs have a nice range of color temps and a good amount of programmability. I do worry about devices like that which require an internet connection though. I'm not sure what kind of information is being transmitted or what kinds of security risks they might pose (if any).
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Re: Simulate sunrise/sunset with LED's

Postby JumpinJellyfish » Sat May 11, 2019 7:38 am

I haven't had an issue with them. I don't use Alexa or any of the other "listening" devices, although I do have wifi cams as well, which could technically be grouped with those, I suppose. But honestly anyone who hacked my stuff would likely find themselves bored to death. 🤣
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Re: Simulate sunrise/sunset with LED's

Postby Berserk » Sun May 12, 2019 2:43 am

JumpinJellyfish wrote:I'm not sure how it would work in this type of setup, but thought I'd mention anyway, in case it could work for you. In my bird room, I have an LiFX bulb (in a normal lamp) that works with my wifi and an app. It lets me set the "scene"/color, schedule, and transition time, which is how I simulate sunrise/sunset for my birds (they have other lighting on timers, but the smartbulb helps them not be startled by the regular lights coming on/going off. :0)
For my dragon I just have the basking light on before and off after the UVB, but now that you got me thinking...
(Cooperdragon, I tried a thermostat and household timer, but that didn't work properly. I keep meaning to look into the brand you've mentioned).


Thanks for the suggestion...does the LiFX provide a good simulation? Does it flicker? When it is ramping up/down, and you try to take a video/pic of it, does it generates some kind of "lines or bands of shadows"?

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Re: Simulate sunrise/sunset with LED's

Postby JumpinJellyfish » Sun May 12, 2019 9:54 am

Thanks for the suggestion...does the LiFX provide a good simulation? Does it flicker? When it is ramping up/down, and you try to take a video/pic of it, does it generates some kind of "lines or bands of shadows"?

It doesn't visibly flicker, but I've never tried to take video or pictures of it. I will try to remember to do that, but in the meantime, see if there are any user videos on their site or on YouTube.
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Re: Simulate sunrise/sunset with LED's

Postby chrsschb » Wed May 15, 2019 7:01 am

CooperDragon wrote:That's an interesting option. It looks like those Lifx bulbs have a nice range of color temps and a good amount of programmability. I do worry about devices like that which require an internet connection though. I'm not sure what kind of information is being transmitted or what kinds of security risks they might pose (if any).


The more savvy IT guys would tell you to upgrade your home network to the point where you can establish separate VLANs and separate the IoT and Smart devices. This allows you to limit who/what/when they can communicate and essentially eliminate sending packets "home" (aka the manufacturer).
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Re: Simulate sunrise/sunset with LED's

Postby CooperDragon » Wed May 15, 2019 11:11 am

chrsschb wrote:
CooperDragon wrote:That's an interesting option. It looks like those Lifx bulbs have a nice range of color temps and a good amount of programmability. I do worry about devices like that which require an internet connection though. I'm not sure what kind of information is being transmitted or what kinds of security risks they might pose (if any).


The more savvy IT guys would tell you to upgrade your home network to the point where you can establish separate VLANs and separate the IoT and Smart devices. This allows you to limit who/what/when they can communicate and essentially eliminate sending packets "home" (aka the manufacturer).


This is what I do with my webcam. I caught it "dialing home" to a DNS server in China so I shut down the outbound traffic from the camera and only let it communicate with a camera server which then relays the feed outside. It renders the native camera software useless but that's OK.
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