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New beardie, need help :(

Postby JaminsonAndHam » Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:20 pm

I’m new at owning a beardie and need help. My beardie is a juvenile. I’m very confused about lighting. I got the Zilla terrarium desert kit and I don’t think it came with everything I need, lighting wise. I know the thermometer it came with isn’t that good but I’m getting a better one. (I didn’t buy the kit myself, this was all a gift from my parents) Is there anything I’m missing or needing?
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Re: New beardie, need help :(

Postby kingofnobbys » Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:30 am

Show us the UV lighting , the basking globe and fittings and how they are installed.

Trouble with these kits is they nearly always contain lights that are far from adequate.

This will help you work out how to set up your lighting PROPERLY : viewtopic.php?f=34&t=235611
CBDs: Puff (M)(RIP 10Dec2015 @ 3.2 yrs old (aneurism)),Rex (F)(RIP 16Mar2017 @ 4.6 yrs old,Toothless (M)(sudden unexplained death RIP 26Nov2017) @ 2.1 yrs old.Peppa (F) (born 15Nov2015).
EBTSs : George & Mildred (born july 2010).
EWSs : Lucky (M)(wild juvenile), cat attack rescue, fatal SI RIP 21Jul2010.Wriggles (F)(rescued injured),thought she was a big lizard, 7-8 yrs old, died in her sleep, RIP 2Feb2016). Fluffy (F) rescued 14Nov2017 about 4 yrs old . .
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Re: New beardie, need help :(

Postby JaminsonAndHam » Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:51 am

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Re: New beardie, need help :(

Postby kingofnobbys » Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:07 am

JaminsonAndHam wrote:https://imgur.com/a/nMxhyNb



Ditch the purple globe …. these are not appropriate for a bearded dragon.

Is the other globe a MVB ? or a neodymium basking globe ? or a domestic spotglobe ?

This provided will help you work out the best lighting for your dragon : viewtopic.php?f=34&t=235611
CBDs: Puff (M)(RIP 10Dec2015 @ 3.2 yrs old (aneurism)),Rex (F)(RIP 16Mar2017 @ 4.6 yrs old,Toothless (M)(sudden unexplained death RIP 26Nov2017) @ 2.1 yrs old.Peppa (F) (born 15Nov2015).
EBTSs : George & Mildred (born july 2010).
EWSs : Lucky (M)(wild juvenile), cat attack rescue, fatal SI RIP 21Jul2010.Wriggles (F)(rescued injured),thought she was a big lizard, 7-8 yrs old, died in her sleep, RIP 2Feb2016). Fluffy (F) rescued 14Nov2017 about 4 yrs old . .
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Re: New beardie, need help :(

Postby JaminsonAndHam » Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:32 pm

It’s a basking globe.
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Re: New beardie, need help :(

Postby kingofnobbys » Sun Sep 23, 2018 11:36 pm

JaminsonAndHam wrote:It’s a basking globe.



DEFINITELY get rid of it.
... bearded dragon rely on colour vision as well as smell to find their food. The purple coloured "BLACKLIGHT" globe will colorizing everything in the dragon's tank (including food) oddly and your dragon will be having problems finding food because of this, plus the UV spectrum from those "blacklight" globes if far from optimal for a bearded dragon and it's unlikely to be providing the right UV spectral mix of wavelengths of UV(A & B) at the right intensities to be metabolically beneficial to your dragon.
Have you checked the UVA and UVB spectrum and fluxes using solarmeters ?

Ideally you need a UV source that will provide about 1 mW UVA / sq.cm and 200 microW UVB / sq.cm at the basking spot, and ZERO UVC , and then 400 microW UVA / sq.cm and 80 microW UVB/ sq.cm in the warm zone (on the floor).
Best option is an Arcadia T5HO 12%UVB tube about 2/3 the length of the tank , mounted under the mesh lid , about 12" from the basking spot in properly design reflector hood.

The basking globe can be either :
>> a MVB
>> a Neodymium coated basking globe designed for reptiles
>> a domestic par38 incandescent or halogen floodlight (NOT COLOURED)
>> a GU10 halogen downlight halogen floodlight (NOT COLOURED)
The aim of this globe is to provide a basking spot at about 40 degC , and warm zone about 35 degC, if it contributes to UVA & UVB at the basking spot (ie a MVB (UVA & UVB) or neodymium (UVA) that's a bonus.

NO COLOURED GLOBES in a bearded dragon's tank, and no light emitting heat globes / night globes for overnight, if your tank needs to be warmed overnight, the best options are
>> radiators (designed vivariums)
>> ceramic heat emitters (shaped like mushrooms) …. radiate heat but give off no light , these need to be controlled by a diming thermostat.
>> heatpads (need to be layed under tile to distribute warm and should be controlled by a separate switching thermostat).
>> helps to have a solid timber lid on the viv to hold in heat overnight and insulate the viv from chilly overnight room temperatures and drafts.
CBDs: Puff (M)(RIP 10Dec2015 @ 3.2 yrs old (aneurism)),Rex (F)(RIP 16Mar2017 @ 4.6 yrs old,Toothless (M)(sudden unexplained death RIP 26Nov2017) @ 2.1 yrs old.Peppa (F) (born 15Nov2015).
EBTSs : George & Mildred (born july 2010).
EWSs : Lucky (M)(wild juvenile), cat attack rescue, fatal SI RIP 21Jul2010.Wriggles (F)(rescued injured),thought she was a big lizard, 7-8 yrs old, died in her sleep, RIP 2Feb2016). Fluffy (F) rescued 14Nov2017 about 4 yrs old . .
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Re: New beardie, need help :(

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